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Subject: Re: Top 10 programs?

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 06:05:38 12/15/01

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On December 15, 2001 at 08:47:54, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On December 15, 2001 at 07:57:22, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>
>>On December 15, 2001 at 05:14:37, Mike S. wrote:
>>
>>>On December 15, 2001 at 03:22:01, John Marountas wrote:
>>>
>>>>(...)
>>>
>>>>      Below is the TOP 10 programs
>>>>
>>>>                                           81185 games played by  226 computers
>>>>                                           Rating   +     -  Games   Won  Oppo
>>>>                         RAM   Pro    MHz  ------  ---   --- -----   ---  ----
>>>>   1 Deep Fritz          256MB Athlon 1200   2726   55   -51   182   65%  2618
>>>>   2 Gambit Tiger 2.0    256MB Athlon 1200   2720   50   -48   205   59%  2653
>>>>   3 Chess Tiger 14.0 CB 256MB Athlon 1200   2703   49   -46   230   65%  2592
>>>>   4 Shredder 5.32       256MB Athlon 1200   2699   50   -47   222   67%  2577
>>>>   5 Junior 7.0          256MB Athlon 1200   2679   61   -59   140   59%  2615
>>>>   6 Deep Fritz          128MB K6-2    450   2654   27   -26   731   63%  2560
>>>>   7 Gandalf 4.32h       256MB Athlon 1200   2653   68   -63   119   61%  2574
>>>>   8 Gambit Tiger 2.0    128MB K6-2    450   2640   30   -29   592   66%  2521
>>>>   9 Chess Tiger 14.0 CB 128MB K6-2    450   2632   32   -30   537   66%  2518
>>>>  10 Junior 7.0          128MB K6-2    450   2624   45   -42   271   65%  2518
>>>
>>>These are only the TOP *6* programs :o).
>>>
>>>If you count the latest versions only, the missing 4 are:
>>>
>>>11 Fritz 6.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2623 23 -23 968 64% 2521
>>>19 Nimzo 8.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2549 26 -26 715 54% 2521
>>>22 Hiarcs 7.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2522 25 -24 809 52% 2506
>>>24 SOS 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2519 21 -21 1130 50% 2519
>>>
>>>Currently 11th and 12th (or 10th and 11th, if you count Deep Fritz/Fritz only
>>>once, or even 9th and 10th, if you also count Chess/Gambit Tiger only once):
>>>
>>>24 Rebel Century 3.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2519 30 -30 546 49% 2525
>>>26 Chessmaster 8000 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2516 44 -45 251 45% 2549
>>>
>>>From these 12, I think that Nimzo, SOS and Chessmaster will not be tested on
>>>Athlon 1200 which means there will be a new TOP 10 program, probably Crafty
>>>which is being tested already on A1200.
>>>
>>>There are some programs which are capable IMO of entering the TOP 10, but aren't
>>>available and/or not tested by the SSDF, i.e. Yace.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>M.Scheidl
>>
>>Hello Michael,
>>
>>please not forget the not free available engines.
>>Chess Wizard, Ferret, Zarkov (in an older 4.5h version very strong), Insomniac,
>>Arthur, Virtual Chess (I believe the new version comming soon).
>>
>>Not what we have ...
>>More ineresting is ... what we not have :-)
>>
>>20x Fritz is boring in a list.
>>
>>Best
>>Frank
>
>I wonder how the latest version of Gromit would score on your list.
>
>Pichard

Hi,

I don't know how strong is Gromit 3.9.5.
I know Gromit 3.8.2 and other versions are playing with ~ 2.450 if Crafty is
playing with 2.500, look in my CCE tourney. But yes, also Gromit is one of the
best amateur programs. I think Insomniac, Crafty, Arthur, Yace are the best
amateur programs. For sure Chess Wizard, Ferret and Virtual Chess (top level).

The list is big :-)
Thinking on Diep Chess (believe also very strong), Stobor, Zarkov, IsiChess,
DarkTought and much others ...

Best
Frank



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