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Subject: Re: CCL results 08-06-98

Author: Keith Ian Price

Date: 15:58:55 06/08/98

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On June 08, 1998 at 18:42:07, Ed Schröder wrote:

>>Posted by Fernando Villegas on June 08, 1998 at 14:54:25:
>
>>In Reply to: CCL results 08-06-98 posted by Ed Schröder on June 08, 1998 at
>>13:05:30:
>
>>On June 08, 1998 at 13:05:30, Ed Schröder wrote:
>
>>Hi Ed:
>>This one just to congratulate you because of your honesty and fair play.
>>I know more than a programmer that would have looked for a pretext to
>>end a tournament if his baby was not winning. Rebel has been
>>systematically in third place and even so you go on. Not that a
>>tournament with so few games is decisive, we all know that here, but
>>anyway for a lot less some people just run. That speak very well of you
>>commercial attitude and is a reassurance about the quality of your
>>products, not the contrary.
>>Fernando
>
>Thanks for all compliments. One thing I like to do on CCL is to play
>an NPS tournament in the tradition of the Crafty-Rebel event. This time
>with more games and not such a huge time difference, say factor 10.
>
>To some extend it will reveal something what you may expect from faster
>hardware the coming years and if speed is decisive. Is it? :)
>
>Say you play the NPS tournament, Program_X gets 4:30 per move,
>Program_Y gets 45:00 per move, both programs with permanent brain off.
>All six programs will play one game against each other. The program
>with 4:30 per move has always white otherwise the NPS tournament will
>take too long.
>
>The paring then would be:
>
>G5  - M7         N98 - H6        S2  - R9
>M7  - G5         H6  - N98       R9  - S2
>G5  - N98        R9  - H6        S2  - M7
>N98 - G5         H6  - R9        M7  - S2
>G5  - H6         S2  - N98       R9  - M7
>H6  - G5         N98 - S2        M7  - R9
>G5  - R9         S2  - H6        M7  - N98
>R9  - G5         H6  - S2        N98 - M7
>G5  - S2         R9 -  N98       M7  - H6
>S2  - G5         N98 - R9        H6  - M7
>
>Say one game takes 60 hours = 2.5 days. 30 games will take 75 days.
>Using 2 autoplayer pairs the total NPS tournament would take 30-40
>days which looks pretty acceptable to me.
>
>Interesting enough?

I would find it interesting. I would also request if you were to do this
that you add CSTal to the mix, as I have a theory that it would do well
with an increase in speed, as would MChessPro, and to some extent Rebel.
I think it would be dramatically better, but it is only a theory.

>Alternatives?

As above.

>Or better play the normal (10 game) 40/2:00 matches?

If this is in lieu of the CCL, then, by all means, do the regular games.
Keep up the good work. I know you prefer Computer-human games, but they
are few and far between these days.

kp



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