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Subject: Re: shredder 5 - shredder 6 (100x blitz 3,0)

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 08:00:32 12/16/01

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On December 15, 2001 at 16:28:04, Jeroen van Dorp wrote:

>Just for the record: there is no sense in this match.
>Why do I do it? Answer: because I can.
>Every kid wants to play with his new toys ;)
>
>I find it nice to see how a program plays, and to see if I can discover a style
>- or flaws for that matter. Maybe other people do the same, and the games might
>be interesting to them. That's all. The message wasn't intended to tell anything
>about the strenghts, but more about comparing playing style. I don't think much
>has changed.
>
>About the results: I think they're awfully close, and I didn't expect something
>else. In the first stage of the tournament Shredder 5 ran away quite easily from
>S6, so it could have been the reverse. Based on this results only, for blitz 3,0
>the rating difference in this match was about 17 or 18 points. In my opinion
>that is: equally strong in this match.
>
>The "werbung" from Chessbase says SMK has improved some algorithms. Maybe
>Shredder 6 works relatively better at longer time controls. I won't check it, I
>need my PC :))
>
>
>
>Here's a situation from a game where I doubted to adjudicate:
>
>[D]6k1/6p1/4K1P1/3B4/8/8/8/8 w - - 0 142
>
>S6 won this game because S5 forfeited on time.
>
>In principle black still can win, as the black pawn will promote on the right
>square - or better: white has the wrong bishop.
>
>But which white player will go wrong here? And furthermore: which white player
>will be able to mate black here? I think it's a draw, but technically speaking
>black could still win, so - I let it. Maybe people here more familiar with
>adjudication have different opinions.
>If you would declare it a draw - there goes another point difference...
>
>J.

This position is a tablebase draw.  Where are your tablebases??  Also with
tablebases the moves come almost instantly and there is no need to lose on time.
Jim



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