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Subject: Re: Actualy a remark on how stupid it is to give a gm the program before ...

Author: Marc van Hal

Date: 11:16:39 12/17/01

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On December 17, 2001 at 12:14:42, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On December 17, 2001 at 11:41:26, Marc van Hal wrote:
>
>>Giving a program to a G is verry stupid
>>You simply could see it like this
>>Kasparov and Kramnik sit on the board
>>Kasparov Asks:  Kramnik what move  will you make after this move
>>Kramnik answers:I am going to make this move
>>Kasparov: Aha!
>>Kasparov is looking over the position again.
>>And desides too make the move anyways.
>>
>>5 moves later Kasparov sees that the move was not as good he hoped they should
>>be.
>>
>>Kasparov put all the moves back.
>>
>>And makes a new move
>>


>>Kasparov ask: Kramnik what will you play after this move?
>>
>>Kramnik says:I will make this move
>>
>>Kasparov looks over the board again makes the move
>>
>>This contineus till Kasparov wins the game.
>>
>>This contineus till Kasparov had played all the openings from Kramnik reportoir
>>
>>Kasparov remembers the games.
>>
>>Now the Match will be played
>>
>>Kasparov plays all the moves he remeberd
>>
>>Kramnik plays exactly the same moves like he did before.
>>Kasparov easely wins the match
>>Kramnik says I rembered these positions vaguely .
>>
>>Regards Marc van Hal
>
>I see your point, but how can you replace a computer with Kramnik.  You
>should have been more direct by simply replacing Kasparov with Kramnik and
>Kramnik with Deep Fritz. Now the logical thing to do would be for Frans Morsch
>to request from Kramnik if he could still replace his program and Opening Book
>one week prior to the match.
>
>Jorge

I replaced Kramnik and Kasparov with a program versus human
Because in this case you would say they must be kidding.
While in the position with a program you find it normal.
While it is basicly the same.
The percentage can be dropped extremely if you know that there are many
transpositions.
I also don't believe to much in speed
Because I think it will reach the wall and only is hitting on it
compared with programs  playing under tournament conditionson on the normal
hardware.

Maybe I am wrong
But this are my thoughts.

Maybe someone working for chessbase later on can show me I was wrong.



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