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Subject: Re: winboard engine wisk list

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 12:50:57 12/17/01

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On December 17, 2001 at 06:39:10, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
[snip]
>Hi Thomas,
>
>the 6-8 professionals maybe in 2-3 years. I believe in the future are only
>commercial GUIs intersting, to many strong free programs available. If you have
>in 3 years machines with 2-3 GHz, it is not very important to have a Fritz or
>Tiger if 200 programs free available.

For sure that will never happen.  If you have 100THz machines, and you can buy a
professional program for less than 100 dollars, I will still buy them.  First,
the competition is always going to be better.  The professionals get to program
on nothing but chess all the time.  The amateurs are mostly hobby time, and so
they can never really catch up.  Even though an amateur program might get to
3000 ELO, if the professional is 3100 ELO, people will still buy it, because
that means a lot more wins with the professional programs.

Why aren't we satisfied with using a 486 to play chess online?  We keep buying
new machines because we want to do better.

If anything, I think free winboard engines that are excellent will drive sales
*higher*.  I played with free engines for a long time before I ever bought a
professional program.  Now I have:
ChessMaster
Chess Assistant
Rebel
Hiarcs
Chess Tiger
Zarkov
Bookup

And Shredder 6 is on my shopping list, as soon as ICD carries it.

>This is good for user, must give not to many money for chess software and more
>people find interest to play with chess programs. This is good for publicity for
>computer chess.

I found Chessmaster online for $13 once.  The latest version.  I went to the
store and bought 3 copies at $30, just because I would rather have the service
from a local outlet.  I mean, if you can't afford $30 for a chess program then
you are probably living in a trailer down by the river.

The database programs are what every serious chess player should have.  SCID is
a very, very good free program.  But I think that this also will drive sales of
the professional programs.  The huge value in the professional programs is not
only the great feature set, but also the quality of the data.  You just can't
get free stuff that is of the same quality.

>Commercial firms can spent more time for good GUI options with
>WinBoard, other concepts are not very interesting in the future. WinBoard is
>Standard !!
>
>Yes, we have also a great next year for computer chess. Many not available
>programs and also programmers which can programming a second WinBoard GUI, for
>user which love more grafic :-))
>
>We will see ... SCID is a very good free database and we have other very good
>free database programs.
>
>My wish programs for the future are:
>
>01. WB Chess Wizard, France
>02. WB BBChess, France
>03. Jester as WinBoard engine, France
>04. WB LambChop for free, France (plays fantastic computer chess, one of my
>    favorits).
>05. WB Hossa, like Steffen comments in chess fora, Steffen must have a super
>    strong program, but Steffen will say ... no Frank my program is not super
>    strong :-))
>06. All italian programs must I have for free ...
>    The Italian programmers made a fantastic work, Luigi made in the past
>    s super good work for WinBoard.
>07. Also all the strong Spain programs !!
>    Betsabe, RuyLopez, Eugen
>
>Chess Guru is also a super strong program, I replay games, very interesting.
>But a Linux engine.
>
>IsiChess and Neurologic are also very good German programs.
>
>And all this for WinBoard and for free and we all can better sleeping.
>We will see ...
>
>I wish me a WB engine from Socrates, Stobor (new and strong American power).
>Or DarkThough or German Nightmare, German XxxxII, German Schach 3.0 and and and
>...
>
>Best
>Frank
>
>WB Kallisto and WB Virtual Chess is also interesting :-)



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