Author: Jonas Cohonas
Date: 23:21:50 12/17/01
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On December 17, 2001 at 14:53:38, John Merlino wrote: >On December 17, 2001 at 07:47:05, David Rasmussen wrote: > >>Chezzz 1.0 alpha, which is a complete rewrite of Chezzz, just beat CM8000 on >>appx. equal hardware on ICC! I know nothing can be proved of this (in fact, I >>_know_ that CM8000 is a billion times stronger than Chezzz), but it was still >>hilarious to see, because this version of Chezzz is not at all finished. It >>knows _nothing_ about king safety! And the rest of the evaluation is a joke too. >>And the branching factor is still high, and... When CM8000 matched me, I wrote >>the operator (if any), "Pick on someone your own size..." :) >> >>Here's the game: >> >>[Event "ICS Rated standard match"] >>[Site "chessclub.com"] >>[Date "2001.12.17"] >>[Round "-"] >>[White "Chezzz"] >>[Black "Chess8000"] >>[Result "*"] >>[WhiteElo "2248"] >>[BlackElo "2135"] >>[TimeControl "900+5"] >> >>1. b3 e5 2. Bb2 Nc6 3. c4 Nf6 4. e3 d5 5. cxd5 Nxd5 6. a3 Bd6 7. Qc2 O-O 8. >>Nf3 Qe7 9. Nc3 Nxc3 10. Qxc3 Bg4 11. Be2 Qe6 12. Bc4 Qg6 13. Bd5 Be6 14. >>Bxc6 bxc6 15. O-O Bd5 16. Kh1 Rab8 17. b4 a5 18. bxa5 Rb3 19. Qc1 Qh5 20. >>Ng1 Rfb8 21. Bc3 Qg6 22. f3 c5 23. Qe1 Bc4 24. Ne2 c6 25. Rg1 R3b7 26. e4 >>Qe6 27. Ng3 Ba6 28. Nf5 Bf8 29. Qe3 f6 30. Rgc1 Qb3 31. f4 exf4 32. Qxf4 >>Bd3 33. Qf3 Rd7 34. Qg4 Kh8 35. Nxg7 Rxg7 36. Bxf6 Qb5 37. a6 Qxa6 38. e5 >>c4 39. e6 Qa7 40. a4 Kg8 41. Bxg7 Bxg7 42. Ra2 Re8 43. a5 Rf8 44. Qg3 Rf6 >>45. Re1 Rf8 46. a6 Re8 47. Qf3 Rf8 48. Qg3 Re8 49. e7 Kf7 50. Qf3+ Kg8 51. >>Qe3 Qxe3 52. Rxe3 Bf6 53. a7 Ra8 54. e8=Q+ Rxe8 55. Rxe8+ >>* >> >>At this point, CM8000 resigned. The resignation isn't in the pgn because I >>didn't save it as it was played. I had to do "examine Chezzz 31" and then >>proceed to the end of the game, and save. I don't know why the resignation and >>the result isn't set properly in this case. >> >>/David > >I have looked at this game and a few items are rather odd. > >Firstly, Chezzz played a great game, no doubt about that, especially if it is as >weak as you claim. ;-) > >However, I believe that this game was actually human-operated, which Chessmaster >only making MOST of the moves, rather than TheKing.exe running under Winboard. >Here are my findings: > >-- The first eleven moves are straight out of CM8000's book, which would be >impossible if TheKing were "in charge", because there is no way for TheKing to >access the CM8000 opening book under Winboard. > >-- I don't think any of the questionable moves in the game were due to mouse >slips, since the suggested move by CM8000 is usually unrelated to the move >played. > >-- There are several moves which I cannot get TheKing to reproduce at all, and >most of them are near the end of the game. > >Specifically, 11...Qe6, 24...c6, 45...Rf8, 46...Re8??, 51...Qxe3, 52...Bf6?? and >53...Ra8 (although the game was certainly lost by that point, so I suspect the >operator just lost patience). > >Here's CM8000's output: > >Time Depth Score Positions Moves >0:00 1/3 -0.35 1945 11...Qf6 12.O-O Rfe8 13.Qc2 >0:00 1/3 -0.36 3440 11...Rfd8 12.O-O Bc5 13.Rfc1 >0:00 1/3 -0.39 3951 11...Rad8 12.O-O Bc5 13.Rfc1 >0:00 1/4 -0.53 5999 11...Rad8 12.O-O Rfe8 13.d4 exd4 > 14.Nxd4 Bxe2 15.Nxe2 >0:00 2/5 -0.27 16745 11...Rad8 12.O-O Rfe8 13.Rfc1 Qf6 > 14.Qc2 >0:00 2/6 -0.30 36492 11...Rad8 12.O-O Rfe8 13.Rfc1 Qe6 > 14.e4 Qg6 >0:04 3/7 -0.14 206145 11...Rad8 12.O-O Rfe8 13.Rfc1 Qe6 > 14.h3 Bf5 15.d3 >0:05 3/7 -0.20 300187 11...Rfe8 12.O-O Qf6 13.Qc2 Qf5 > 14.d3 Rad8 15.Rfc1 >0:14 3/8 -0.31 754101 11...Rfe8 12.O-O Qe6 13.Ng5 Qf5 > 14.f3 Qxg5 15.fxg4 e4 >0:35 4/9 -0.17 1985217 11...Rfe8 12.O-O Qf6 13.Qc2 Rad8 > 14.Rfc1 Bf5 15.d3 Qg6 16.Nh4 > >Time Depth Score Positions Moves >0:00 1/3 -1.00 2399 24...Qg4 25.h3 Qf5 >0:00 1/3 -1.28 2360 24...c6 25.a4 Re8 26.e4 >0:00 1/3 -1.35 2723 24...Re8 25.a4 e4 26.fxe4 Qxe4 >0:00 1/4 -1.35 5313 24...Re8 25.a4 e4 26.fxe4 Qxe4 >0:00 1/4 -1.36 8555 24...Bd3 25.a4 e4 26.Qd1 Qh5 >0:00 2/5 -1.22 17224 24...Bd3 25.a4 Rb1 26.Rxb1 Rxb1 >0:01 2/6 -1.19 51118 24...Bd3 25.e4 c6 26.a4 R3b7 27.Qf2 > Qe6 >0:01 2/6 -1.22 72514 24...Re8 25.a4 c6 26.e4 f5 27.f4 >0:04 3/7 -1.02 240503 24...Re8 25.a4 Bd3 26.Qf2 c4 27.Nc1 > Bxf1 28.Nxb3 Bxg2+ 29.Qxg2 Qxg2+ > 30.Kxg2 cxb3 >0:05 3/7 -1.05 292587 24...Bd3 25.e4 c6 26.Qf2 Qe6 27.Nc1 > Bxf1 28.Nxb3 Bxg2+ 29.Qxg2 Rxb3 >0:12 3/8 -0.92 722969 24...Bd3 25.Rg1 Rb1 26.Nc1 Ba6 > 27.Rxb1 Rxb1 28.e4 >0:16 3/8 -0.98 931674 24...Re8 25.e4 c6 26.Qf2 Qe6 27.Rab1 > Bd3 28.Rxb3 Qxb3 >0:22 3/8 -1.05 1249195 24...c6 25.e4 Bd3 26.Qf2 Qe6 27.Nc1 > Bxf1 28.Nxb3 Bxg2+ 29.Qxg2 Rxb3 >0:28 3/8 -1.10 1544624 24...Qc2 25.Rc1 Qd3 26.Rf2 Rxa3 > 27.e4 Be6 28.Ng3 Ra2 >0:37 4/9 -1.06 2088554 24...Qc2 25.Rc1 Qd3 26.Ng3 Qg6 > 27.Rg1 Bd3 28.e4 Rxa3 29.Qe3 >1:25 4/10 -1.06 5094403 24...Qc2 25.Rc1 Qd3 26.Ng3 Qg6 > 27.Rg1 Bd3 28.e4 Rxa3 29.Qe3 >4:15 5/11 -0.90 16577033 24...Qc2 25.Rc1 Qd3 26.Ng3 Qd5 > 27.Rg1 Rxa3 28.e4 Qe6 29.Rb1 Rbb3 > 30.Rxb3 Rxb3 > >Time Depth Score Positions Moves >0:00 1/3 -0.19 1743 45...h5 46.Qh3 Qf2 47.a6 >0:00 1/3 -0.03 2556 45...Rf5 46.Qd6 Qf2 47.Qd8+ Rf8 >0:00 1/3 0.26 1429 45...Rf8 46.a6 Rf2 47.e7 >0:00 1/4 0.24 7098 45...Rf8 46.a6 h6 47.Qd6 >0:00 1/4 0.00 14196 45...Be4 46.Qg4 Bd3 47.Qg3 >0:00 2/5 0.09 33746 45...Be4 46.Rb2 Rf8 47.Qg5 h6 >0:01 2/6 0.33 103126 45...Be4 46.Rb2 Rf8 47.a6 Bg6 48.Rb7 > Qxa6 >0:05 3/7 0.51 397952 45...Be4 46.a6 c5 47.Rb2 Rf8 48.Kg1 > Qa8 49.Ra2 >0:17 3/8 0.51 1241364 45...Be4 46.a6 c5 47.Qg4 Bd3 48.Qh4 > h6 49.Qg3 Rf8 >0:43 4/9 0.57 3195923 45...Be4 46.a6 c5 47.Qg4 Bd5 48.h3 > Qe7 49.a7 Rf8 50.Qh5 Qb7 >3:00 5/10 0.66 13254678 45...Be4 46.a6 c5 47.Qg4 Bd5 48.h3 > Qe7 49.a7 Rf8 50.Qg3 Rd8 51.Qf2 > >Time Depth Score Positions Moves >0:00 1/4 0.00 14196 46...Be4 47.Qg4 Bd3 48.Qg3 >0:00 1/3 0.33 2595 46...h6 47.Qd6 Qf2 >0:00 1/4 0.40 10385 46...h6 47.Ra5 Be4 48.Qe3 Qxe3 > 49.dxe3 >0:00 1/4 0.35 16052 46...Kh8 47.Qg5 h6 48.Qe3 c5 >0:00 2/5 0.54 36041 46...Kh8 47.Qe3 Qxe3 48.dxe3 c3 > 49.a7 >0:00 2/5 0.44 42871 46...h6 47.Ra5 Be4 48.Raa1 Bd3 > 49.e7 >0:02 2/6 1.20 160820 46...h6 47.Rb2 Qe7 48.Rb7 Qf6 49.Qf3 > >0:02 2/6 0.81 180681 46...Kh8 47.Qe3 Qxe3 48.dxe3 Ra8 > 49.a7 c3 >0:03 2/6 0.75 219772 46...Bg6 47.Qh4 Bd4 48.e7 Re8 49.Qf4 > Rb8 >0:07 3/7 0.75 460338 46...Bg6 47.Qh4 Bd4 48.e7 Re8 49.Ra4 > Bd3 50.Qg3+ Kh8 >0:17 3/8 0.77 1173761 46...Bg6 47.Qh4 Bd4 48.e7 Re8 49.Ra4 > Bd3 50.Qf4 h6 51.Qg4+ Kh7 >0:51 4/9 0.77 3609849 46...Bg6 47.Qh4 Kh8 48.e7 Re8 49.Ra4 > Bd3 50.Re3 Bc3 51.Qf4 > >Time Depth Score Positions Moves >0:00 1/4 0.00 14196 46...Be4 47.Qg4 Bd3 48.Qg3 >0:00 1/3 0.33 2595 46...h6 47.Qd6 Qf2 >0:00 1/4 0.40 10385 46...h6 47.Ra5 Be4 48.Qe3 Qxe3 > 49.dxe3 >0:00 1/4 0.35 16052 46...Kh8 47.Qg5 h6 48.Qe3 c5 >0:00 2/5 0.54 36041 46...Kh8 47.Qe3 Qxe3 48.dxe3 c3 > 49.a7 >0:00 2/5 0.44 42871 46...h6 47.Ra5 Be4 48.Raa1 Bd3 > 49.e7 >0:02 2/6 1.20 160820 46...h6 47.Rb2 Qe7 48.Rb7 Qf6 49.Qf3 > >0:02 2/6 0.81 180681 46...Kh8 47.Qe3 Qxe3 48.dxe3 Ra8 > 49.a7 c3 >0:03 2/6 0.75 219772 46...Bg6 47.Qh4 Bd4 48.e7 Re8 49.Qf4 > Rb8 >0:07 3/7 0.75 460338 46...Bg6 47.Qh4 Bd4 48.e7 Re8 49.Ra4 > Bd3 50.Qg3+ Kh8 >0:17 3/8 0.77 1173761 46...Bg6 47.Qh4 Bd4 48.e7 Re8 49.Ra4 > Bd3 50.Qf4 h6 51.Qg4+ Kh7 >0:51 4/9 0.77 3609849 46...Bg6 47.Qh4 Kh8 48.e7 Re8 49.Ra4 > Bd3 50.Re3 Bc3 51.Qf4 >3:48 5/10 0.99 16175266 46...Bg6 47.h3 c5 48.Ra4 Bf6 49.Qg4 > Rd8 50.Qxc4 Bd3 51.Qg4+ Bg7 52.e7 > >Time Depth Score Positions Moves >0:00 1/3 0.88 2505 51...Bd4 52.Qe6+ Kg7 53.Qg4+ Bg6 > 54.Qf4 >0:00 1/4 0.93 6735 51...Bd4 52.Qe6+ Kg7 53.Ra3 h6 > 54.Qd6 >0:00 2/5 0.89 19075 51...Bd4 52.Qe6+ Kg7 53.Ra3 Qc5 > 54.Qg4+ Bg6 55.Rg3 >0:00 2/6 1.11 47586 51...Bd4 52.Qe6+ Kg7 53.Qxc6 Rxe7 > 54.Rxe7+ Qxe7 55.Qb7 Kf6 56.Qxe7+ > Kxe7 57.a7 >0:02 3/7 1.33 143612 51...Bd4 52.Qe6+ Kg7 53.Qxc6 Rxe7 > 54.Rxe7+ Qxe7 55.Qb7 Qxb7 56.axb7 > Be5 57.Rb2 Bb8 >0:06 3/8 1.51 431756 51...Bd4 52.Qe6+ Kg7 53.Qxc6 Kf7 > 54.Qb7 h6 55.Qd5+ Kg7 56.Qd6 >0:22 4/9 1.65 1662106 51...Bd4 52.Qe6+ Kg7 53.Qxc6 Kf7 > 54.Qd5+ Kg7 55.Qd8 Bg6 56.Re6 Bf6 >1:15 5/10 1.44 5826437 51...Bd4 52.Qe6+ Kg7 53.Qxc6 Kf7 > 54.Qd5+ Kg7 55.Qg5+ Bg6 56.Qf4 > Kg8 57.Qd6 Bd3 > >Time Depth Score Positions Moves >0:00 1/3 4.49 1700 52...Bd4 53.a7 Bxe3 54.a8=Q >0:00 1/3 2.23 2791 52...Bb1 53.Ra4 Bd4 54.Rg3+ Bg7 >0:00 1/4 2.77 5050 52...Bb1 53.Ra4 c3 54.dxc3 Kf7 >0:00 1/4 2.65 6894 52...Bg6 53.a7 Ra8 54.Ra4 Bd4 55.e8=Q+ > Bxe8 56.Rxe8+ Rxe8 57.a8=Q Rxa8 > 58.Rxa8+ Kf7 >0:00 2/5 2.76 12585 52...Bg6 53.a7 Ra8 54.e8=Q+ Bxe8 > 55.Rxe8+ Rxe8 56.a8=Q Rxa8 57.Rxa8+ > Kf7 58.Ra7+ Kg6 >0:00 2/6 2.80 35042 52...Bg6 53.a7 Ra8 54.e8=Q+ Bxe8 > 55.Rxe8+ Rxe8 56.a8=Q Rxa8 57.Rxa8+ > Kf7 58.Ra7+ Kg6 59.Kg1 >0:01 3/7 3.19 83545 52...Bg6 53.a7 Ra8 54.e8=Q+ Bxe8 > 55.Rxe8+ Rxe8 56.a8=Q Rf8 57.Qxf8+ > Kxf8 58.Rc2 c3 59.dxc3 >0:01 3/7 2.98 128239 52...Bb1 53.Ra4 c3 54.dxc3 Bc2 > 55.Ra3 Kf7 56.a7 >0:03 4/8 3.08 298158 52...Bb1 53.Ra4 Bc2 54.Rxc4 Bh6 > 55.Re6 Bg6 56.a7 Bxd2 57.Rcxc6 >0:10 5/9 3.54 895786 52...Bb1 53.Ra5 Bg6 54.a7 Ra8 55.e8=Q+ > Bxe8 56.Rxe8+ Rxe8 57.a8=Q Rxa8 > 58.Rxa8+ Kf7 59.Ra7+ Kg6 60.Rc7 > Bf6 61.Rxc6 >0:39 6/10 3.56 3245526 52...Bb1 53.Ra4 c3 54.Rxc3 Bxc3 > 55.a7 Kf7 56.a8=Q Rxa8 57.Rxa8 > Kxe7 58.dxc3 Bd3 59.Kg1 > >But, when it all comes down to it, Chezzz won the game, so Congratulations! > >jm > >P.S. -- It was a Mate in 8 at the end :-) > >Time Depth Score Positions Moves >0:00 1/3 14.61 750 55...Kf7 56.a8=Q c5 57.Qc8 >0:00 1/4 14.78 2073 55...Kf7 56.a8=Q c5 57.Ra7+ Kg6 > 58.Qd5 >0:00 2/5 15.35 8812 55...Kf7 56.a8=Q h6 57.Rf8+ Kg6 > 58.Qe8+ Kg5 59.Ra5+ Bf5 60.Qxc6 >0:00 2/5 15.27 10550 55...Kg7 56.a8=Q Kh6 57.Qxc6 Kg6 > 58.Qd5 >0:00 3/6 15.67 22122 55...Kg7 56.a8=Q Kh6 57.Re6 Kg7 > 58.Ra7+ Kg6 59.Qg8+ Kf5 60.Rxh7 >0:01 4/7 Mate10 124684 55...Kg7 56.a8=Q Bd4 57.Rg8+ Kf7 > 58.Qe8+ Kf6 59.Qxc6+ Kf5 60.Ra5+ > Be5 61.Qd7+ Kf6 62.Ra6+ Bd6 63.Rxd6+ > Ke5 64.Qe6+ Kf4 65.Rg4# >0:03 4/7 19.99 296536 55...Kf7 56.a8=Q Be4 57.Rxe4 Kg6 > 58.Rxc4 h5 59.Qe8+ Kh6 60.Rxc6 >0:06 5/8 Mate09 547072 55...Kf7 56.a8=Q Bf5 57.Qxc6 Bd4 > 58.Qc7+ Kg6 59.Rg8+ Kf6 60.Ra6+ > Bb6 61.Rxb6+ Be6 62.Qf4+ Ke7 63.Qf8+ > Kd7 64.Qd8# >0:11 6/9 Mate08 1078620 55...Kf7 56.a8=Q Bf5 57.Qxc6 Bd4 > 58.Qc7+ Kg6 59.Rg8+ Kf6 60.Qd6+ > Be6 61.Qxd4+ Ke7 62.Qd8+ Kf7 63.Qf8# > >0:17 6/9 Mate09 1671757 55...Kg7 56.a8=Q Bd4 57.Rg8+ Kf7 > 58.Qe8+ Kf6 59.Qxc6+ Kf7 60.Qe8+ > Kf6 61.Ra6+ Bb6 62.Rxb6+ Kf5 63.Qe6+ > Kf4 64.Rg4# >0:32 7/10 Mate08 3474046 55...Kg7 56.a8=Q Bd4 57.Ra7+ Kh6 > 58.Qd8 Be4 59.Qxd4 Kg6 60.Qg7+ > Kh5 61.Re5+ Bf5 62.Rxf5+ Kh4 63.Qg5# Maby he used very bad settings for CM8 :) Regards Jonas
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