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Subject: Re: Fritz7 vs Crafty 18.12

Author: pavel

Date: 06:34:30 12/18/01

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On December 18, 2001 at 09:01:27, Tina Long wrote:

>On December 18, 2001 at 08:20:52, pavel wrote:
>
>>(Arguably) The strongest commercial chess program vs (Arguably) the strongest
>>freeware chess program, in a very arguable matchup.
>>
>>;)
>>
>>--------------------------
>>Book = 2600.ctg
>>Hash = 50mb both
>>TB = none.
>>Time Control = 5min/side
>>Ponder = off
>>Hardware= Pentium III/ 512mb ram.
>>OS = Windows 2000 Pro.
>>---------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>>  Program             Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws
>>
>>  1 Fritz 7         : 2580   36  58   200    71.5 %   2420   21.0 %
>>  2 Crafty 18.12    : 2420   58  36   200    28.5 %   2580   21.0 %
>>
>>
>>
>>Individual statistics:
>>
>>(1) Fritz 7                   : 200 (+122,= 42,- 36), 71.5 %
>>
>>Crafty 18.12                  : 200 (+122,= 42,- 36), 71.5 %
>>
>>
>>(2) Crafty 18.12              : 200 (+ 36,= 42,-122), 28.5 %
>>
>>Fritz 7                       : 200 (+ 36,= 42,-122), 28.5 %
>>
>>
>>
>>The differance between freeware chessprograms and commecial programs seems to be
>>just going bigger. Ok, Ok probably this result doesnt say much but, I am sure
>>this is the case. Or is it that arguable?
>>
>>
>>Have fun,
>>Pavs.
>
>Hi Pavel,
>I presume this is Fritz7a.
>
>200 is a pretty big number, and 71.5% is a pretty big number too! as is 160ELO
>+-47ish.
>


<snip>

>I think your conclusion is: Fritz7a at blitz5m is markedly better than
>Crafty1812, I don't think you can extend that to freeware vs all commercials, as
>Fritz7a does appear to be a bit special.

<snip>


yes that was the point (along with having fun). But it is interetting to see how
it turns out in long time control, because crafty is (without doubt) much better
in longer time control, but so is fritz7a. But fritz7a seems to have a
consistency in all time controls.

IMO crafty does represent all freeware chessengine, as it is (arguably) the
strongest free chess engine for a lometime. Same goes with Fritz6a, but it seems
to have more close competitors.

I would also be interested to have match up between yace and fritz7a, but since
I am running the games under fritz interface and yace doesnt come as native
engine, it isnt possible for the time being.

pavs



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