Author: pavel
Date: 07:19:05 12/18/01
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On December 18, 2001 at 09:52:49, José Carlos wrote: >On December 18, 2001 at 08:20:52, pavel wrote: > >>(Arguably) The strongest commercial chess program vs (Arguably) the strongest >>freeware chess program, in a very arguable matchup. >> >>;) >> >>-------------------------- >>Book = 2600.ctg >>Hash = 50mb both >>TB = none. >>Time Control = 5min/side >>Ponder = off >>Hardware= Pentium III/ 512mb ram. >>OS = Windows 2000 Pro. >>--------------------------- >> >> >> >> Program Elo + - Games Score Av.Op. Draws >> >> 1 Fritz 7 : 2580 36 58 200 71.5 % 2420 21.0 % >> 2 Crafty 18.12 : 2420 58 36 200 28.5 % 2580 21.0 % >> >> >> >>Individual statistics: >> >>(1) Fritz 7 : 200 (+122,= 42,- 36), 71.5 % >> >>Crafty 18.12 : 200 (+122,= 42,- 36), 71.5 % >> >> >>(2) Crafty 18.12 : 200 (+ 36,= 42,-122), 28.5 % >> >>Fritz 7 : 200 (+ 36,= 42,-122), 28.5 % >> >> >> >>The differance between freeware chessprograms and commecial programs seems to be >>just going bigger. Ok, Ok probably this result doesnt say much but, I am sure >>this is the case. Or is it that arguable? >> >> >>Have fun, >>Pavs. > > Let's be scientific. Your test shows: > > Fritz 7 + 2600.ctg > seems stronger at 5 min/game in a PIII unknown mhz + ponder off than > Crafty 18.12 + 2600.ctg > with a certain degree of confidence given by the number (200) of games. > > Neither program use their default book. The time/move is unknown since we >don't know the clock speed. Ponder is off which is not a default setting. > > I don't know your test is worthless, don't get me wrong. I only say it does >not prove anything but the above stated. Nothing about commercials or amateurs; >fritz or crafty; fritz or crafty + default settings; and so on... > > José C. oh yeah ofcourse I forgot to put, Pentium III 1Ghz. Even though I am not going to try to say that my test is the best. but probably is not worthless either. 1) POnder off is a default setting under CB interface. Since both programs are not pondering, I dont see a problem 2)Both program used same opening book from a well-known set of pgn file. If there is anything wrong with the opening book, both program will suffer. As the opening is reversed in every game. IMO the strength of the program doesnt include opening book, opening book is a way to increase the strenght of a program. It is a well-known fact in this forum, that you can never be perfect in a eng-eng match. No matter how many games you play or whatever precautions you take. Even though the games were just fun, i was just trying to get some meaning out of it. regards ;) pavs
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