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Subject: Re: Test position ==> Vaganian-Dolmatov

Author: pavel

Date: 09:02:16 12/18/01

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On December 18, 2001 at 11:55:30, pavel wrote:

>On December 18, 2001 at 11:46:27, pavel wrote:
>
>>On December 18, 2001 at 09:14:07, José Antônio Fabiano Mendes wrote:
>>
>>>    This is a very long story, including the familiar subplot of White trying a
>>>little too hard to win and then losing his objectivity. Here I will present just
>>>one snapshot. After a few inaccurate moves by White, the following position was
>>>reached:
>>>    [D]5b2/k4N2/6p1/8/1p2Pp1p/1K5P/6P1/8 b
>>>
>>
>>
>>on pentium III 1ghz
>>find it on 95secs
>>
>>Interesting is that, most programs I have tried sofar couldnt  find it.
>>
>>
>>Analysis by Crafty 18.12:
>>
>>1...Bc5
>>  -+  (-2.03)   depth: 1/3   00:00:00
>>1...Bc5 2.e5
>>  -+  (-1.72)   depth: 2/3   00:00:00
>>1...Bc5 2.e5 Kb6
>>  -+  (-1.87)   depth: 3/4   00:00:00
>>1...Bc5 2.Ne5 Kb6 3.Nxg6
>>  µ  (-0.91)   depth: 4/7   00:00:00
>>1...Kb7 2.e5 Be7 3.e6
>>  µ  (-1.28)   depth: 4/7   00:00:00
>>1...Kb7 2.Ne5 g5 3.Nd3 g4 4.hxg4
>>  ³  (-0.53)   depth: 5/10   00:00:00
>>1...Ka6 2.e5 Kb5 3.e6 Be7
>>  µ  (-1.38)   depth: 5/10   00:00:00
>>1...Ka6 2.e5 Be7 3.Nd6 Ka5 4.Kc4
>>  µ  (-1.16)   depth: 6/11   00:00:00  7kN
>>1...Ka6 2.e5 Be7 3.e6 Kb5 4.Ne5 g5
>>  µ  (-1.21)   depth: 7/13   00:00:00  11kN
>>1...Kb7 2.Nd8+ Kc8 3.Ne6 Bd6 4.e5 Kd7 5.exd6 Kxe6
>>  µ  (-1.31)   depth: 7/13   00:00:00  21kN
>>1...Kb7 2.e5 Kc6 3.Nh8 g5 4.Ng6 Bc5 5.e6
>>  µ  (-1.32)   depth: 8/14   00:00:00  51kN
>>1...Kb7 2.Ne5 g5 3.Kc4 Be7 4.Ng6 f3 5.gxf3 Bd6
>>  ³  (-0.38)   depth: 9/15   00:00:00  108kN
>>1...Ka6 2.e5 Kb5 3.e6 Be7 4.Ne5 g5 5.Nd3
>>  µ  (-1.21)   depth: 9/15   00:00:00  172kN
>>1...Ka6 2.Ne5 g5 3.Ka4 Bc5 4.Nd3 Kb6 5.e5 f3 6.gxf3
>>  µ  (-1.09)   depth: 10/17   00:00:00  221kN
>>1...Ka6 2.e5 Kb5 3.Ng5 Ka5 4.Nf3 Be7 5.e6 g5 6.Ne5 Kb5
>>  µ  (-1.21)   depth: 11/17   00:00:01  502kN
>>1...Ka6 2.Kc4 Ka5 3.Ne5 Ka4 4.Nxg6 b3 5.Kd3 b2 6.Kc2 Bg7 7.Nxh4 Be5
>>  ³  (-0.58)   depth: 12/22   00:00:01  1083kN
>>1...Ka6 2.Kc4 Ka5 3.Ne5 Ka4 4.Nxg6 b3 5.Kd3 b2 6.Kc2 Bg7 7.Nxh4 Be5
>>  µ  (-0.98)   depth: 13/22   00:00:03  2080kN
>>1...Ka6 2.Ne5 g5 3.Kc4 Kb7 4.Ng6 Bc5 5.e5 Kc6 6.e6 Bd6 7.Kb3 Bc5 8.e7 Kd7
>>  µ  (-0.83)   depth: 14/24   00:00:06  4364kN
>>1...Ka6 2.Ne5 g5 3.Kc4 Bd6 4.Nf3 Ka5 5.Nxg5 Ka4 6.Nf3 b3 7.Nd2 b2 8.Kd5 Bb4
>>9.Nb1
>>  µ  (-1.10)   depth: 15/29   00:00:13  9475kN
>>1...Ka6 2.Ne5 g5 3.Kc4 Bd6 4.Ng6 g4 5.Nxh4 Be7 6.hxg4 Bxh4 7.Kxb4 Bf6 8.Kc4 Be5
>>9.Kd5
>>  µ  (-0.95)   depth: 16/30   00:00:25  18796kN
>>1...Kb7 2.Nd8+ Kb6 3.Ne6 Bd6 4.e5 Bxe5 5.Kxb4 Kc6 6.Kc4 Kd6 7.Nf8 g5 8.Nh7 g4
>>9.hxg4 Ke6
>>  µ  (-0.98)   depth: 16/30   00:01:15  56027kN
>>1...Kb8 2.Nd8 g5 3.Ne6 Be7 4.Kc4 Kc8 5.Nd4 Kd7 6.Kd5 Ke8 7.e5 Kf7 8.Nb3 Kg6 9.e6
>>  µ  (-1.06)   depth: 16/30   00:01:35  71333kN
>>1...Kb8 2.Nd8 g5 3.Ne6 Be7 4.Kc4 Kc8 5.Nd4 Kd7 6.e5 Kc7 7.Kd5 Kb6 8.e6 Bc5 9.Nb3
>>Be7
>>  µ  (-1.01)   depth: 17/37   00:02:01  90843kN
>>1...Kb8 2.Nd8 g5 3.Ne6 Be7 4.Kc4 Kc8 5.Nd4 Kd7 6.e5 Kc7 7.Kd5 Kb6 8.e6 Bc5 9.Nb3
>>Be7 10.Ke5
>>  µ  (-1.01)   depth: 18/38   00:03:26  153562kN
>>1...Kb8 2.Nd8 g5 3.Ne6 Be7 4.Kc4 Kc8 5.Nd4 Kd7 6.e5 Kc7 7.Kd5 Kb6 8.e6 Kc7 9.Kc4
>>Bf8 10.Nb5+ Kc6 11.Nd4+ Kc7
>>  µ  (-0.77)   depth: 19/42   00:07:21  321572kN
>>
>>(Mahamood, home 18.12.2001)
>
>
>
>
>
>Analysis by Junior 6.0:
>
>1...f3 2.gxf3 Bc5
>  ²  (0.42)   depth: 3   00:00:00
>1...Bg7 2.Kxb4
>  ²  (0.40)   depth: 3   00:00:00
>1...Bc5 2.e5
>  ³  (-0.27)   depth: 3   00:00:00
>1...Bc5 2.Ne5 g5 3.Nc6+ Kb6 4.Nxb4 Bxb4
>  ²  (0.47)   depth: 6   00:00:00  1kN
>1...Ka6 2.Ne5 g5 3.Nf3 Be7 4.e5
>  =  (-0.12)   depth: 6   00:00:00  3kN
>1...Ka6 2.Ne5 g5 3.Nd3 Kb5 4.e5 Bg7 5.e6
>  =  (-0.13)   depth: 9   00:00:00  10kN
>1...Ka6 2.Ne5 g5 3.Ka4 f3 4.Nxf3 Be7 5.e5 Kb7
>  ²  (0.26)   depth: 12   00:00:00  85kN
>1...Ka6 2.Ne5 g5 3.Ka4 Bc5 4.Nd3 Kb6 5.Nxb4 Bxb4 6.Kxb4 Kc6
>  ²  (0.28)   depth: 15   00:00:00  350kN
>1...Kb7 2.Kc4 Kc7 3.Ne5 g5 4.Ng6 Bg7 5.Kxb4 Kd6 6.Kb3 Be5 7.Nxe5
>  ²  (0.27)   depth: 15   00:00:01  967kN
>1...Kb7!
>  =  (-0.03)   depth: 18   00:00:06  5438kN
>1...Kb7 2.Kc4 Kc7 3.Ne5 g5 4.Nd3 Kd7 5.Ne1 Ke6 6.Nd3 Bd6
>  =  (-0.03)   depth: 20   00:00:16  11867kN
>1...Kb7 2.Kc4 Kc7 3.Ne5 g5 4.Nf3 Be7 5.Nd4 Kd7 6.Nc2
>  =  (-0.03)   depth: 22   00:00:35  22918kN
>1...Kb7 2.Ne5 g5 3.Nf3 Be7 4.Ne5 Kc7 5.Ng6 Bc5 6.Ne5 Bd6 7.Nf3 Be7 8.Ne5
>  =  (-0.05)   depth: 23   00:01:24  53679kN
>1...Kb8 2.Ne5 g5 3.Nd7+ Kc8 4.Ne5 Bd6 5.Nf3 Be7 6.Ne5 Kd8 7.Kc4 Bf6 8.Nd3 Bc3
>9.Nxb4
>  =  (-0.06)   depth: 23   00:02:13  87900kN
>1...Kb8 2.Ne5 g5 3.Nd7+ Kc8 4.Ne5 Be7 5.Kc4 Kc7 6.Kb3 Kd6 7.Nd3 Kc6 8.Nxb4+ Bxb4
>9.Kxb4 g4 10.hxg4 f3
>  =  (-0.08)   depth: 24   00:02:57  114595kN
>
>(Mahamood, home 18.12.2001)


OK I guess I was wrong, more time is needed for most programs to find it
eventually





Analysis by Fritz 7.0:

1...Kb7!
  ³  (-0.38)   depth: 10/20   00:00:00  145kN
1...Kb7 2.Kc4 Kc7 3.Ne5 g5 4.Ng6 Bg7 5.Kxb4 Kd6 6.Kc4 Ke6
  ³  (-0.38)   depth: 11/20   00:00:00  219kN
1...Kb7 2.Kc4 Kc7 3.Ne5 g5 4.Ng6 Bg7 5.Ne7 b3 6.Kxb3 Be5 7.Nd5+ Kd6
  ³  (-0.35)   depth: 12/22   00:00:00  366kN
1...Ka6!
  ³  (-0.38)   depth: 12/22   00:00:00  425kN
1...Ka6 2.Ne5 g5 3.Ka4 Kb7 4.Kb5 b3 5.Nc4 Bg7 6.Na5+ Kc7 7.Nxb3 Be5
  ³  (-0.44)   depth: 12/22   00:00:00  475kN
1...Ka6 2.Ne5 g5 3.Nf3 Be7 4.Nd4 Kb6 5.Nf5
  ³  (-0.38)   depth: 13/24   00:00:01  724kN
1...Kb7
  ³  (-0.41)   depth: 13/24   00:00:01  970kN
1...Kb7 2.Kc4 Be7 3.Ne5 g5 4.Ng6 Bc5 5.e5 Kc6 6.e6 Bd6 7.Kb3 Kd5 8.e7
  ³  (-0.44)   depth: 14/25   00:00:02  1606kN
1...Kb7 2.Kc4 Be7 3.Ne5 g5 4.Ng6 Bc5 5.Ne5 Bf8
  ³  (-0.47)   depth: 15/25   00:00:05  2866kN
1...Kb7 2.Kc4 Be7 3.Ne5 g5 4.Ng6 Bc5 5.Ne5 Bf8
  ³  (-0.47)   depth: 16/27   00:00:09  5451kN
1...Kb6
  ³  (-0.50)   depth: 16/30   00:00:15  8761kN
1...Kb6!
  µ  (-0.79)   depth: 17/34   00:00:25  13880kN
1...Kb6 2.Ne5 g5 3.Nf3 Be7 4.Kc4 Kc7 5.e5 Kd7 6.Nd4 Ke8 7.Nc6 Kf7 8.Nd4 Bf8
  ³  (-0.60)   depth: 18/32   00:00:40  21056kN
1...Kb6!
  µ  (-0.88)   depth: 19/35   00:01:21  43630kN
1...Kb6 2.Ne5 g5 3.Nf3 Be7 4.Kc4 Kc7 5.e5 Kd7 6.Nd4 Ke8 7.Nc6 Kf7 8.Nd4 Bf8
  ³  (-0.66)   depth: 20/36   00:02:01  66156kN
1...Kb8
  ³  (-0.69)   depth: 20/37   00:04:22  141178kN
1...Kb8 2.Ne5 g5 3.Nf3 Be7 4.Kc4 Kc8 5.Nd4 Kd7 6.e5 Ke8 7.Nc6 Kf7 8.Nd4 Bf8
  ³  (-0.66)   depth: 21/39   00:05:59  193917kN

(Mahamood, home 18.12.2001)




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