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Subject: Re: Fritz 7(a) Bug

Author: Mike S.

Date: 17:26:55 12/19/01

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On December 19, 2001 at 18:38:50, Jeroen van Dorp wrote:

>Maybe this is a bit more clear.
>
>4k1nr/p3ppbp/4b1p1/8/2pnB2N/2N1B1P1/PrP2P1P/R3K2R w Qk - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Fritz 7:
>
>1.0-0-0 Ne2+ 2.Nxe2 Bd7 3.a3 Ra2 4.Bd4 Nf6
>  +-  (2.10)   Depth: 8/22   00:00:00  130kN
>(...)
>
>and
>
>4k1nr/p3ppbp/4b1p1/8/2pnB2N/2N1B1P1/PrP2P1P/R3K2R w KQk - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Fritz 7:
>
>1.Kd2 Nf6 2.Bxg6 Ng4 3.Kc1 Ne2+ 4.Nxe2 Nxe3
>  -+  (-1.71)   Depth: 7/21   00:00:00  148kN
>1.Rb1!
>  -+  (-1.68)   Depth: 7/21   00:00:00  346kN
>(...)

In the game where the problem occured, Fritz 7a was black and played 13...Rxb2,
not expecting Whites reply O-O-O. White still had the kingside castling right:

[D]1r2k1nr/p3ppbp/4b1p1/8/2pnB2N/2N1B1P1/PPP2P1P/R3K2R b KQk - 0 13

13... Rxb2 {(f5) -1.41/13 50} 14. O-O-O {(Kd2) 3.13/12 71} 14... Ne2+ {(Tb6)
2.25/14 99}

http://f23.parsimony.net/forum50826/messages/31803.htm

Some others have posted they can't reproduce Fritz 7a NOT finding the castling
move here with white. I have tried it (again) and I can, but Rxb2 only when I
use the EPD positions like above, but not from the complete game score.

My only conclusion so far: It's a bit confusing :o)

(But no square b1 problem as the other position in this thread proves... maybe
it's a black/white bug when it doesn't expect the opponents castling when
playing Rxb2 - Black didn't have the queenside castling right anymore. Maybe we
need to construct a similar test position whith 3 black Rooks, to legally have
all castling rights available. Then we can see if Fritz 7a would expect White's
O-O-O i.e. after ...Rb6xb2, then we remove *Blacks* right to castle queenside,
and if he now doesn't expect it, Bingo!)

Regards,
M.Scheidl



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