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Subject: Re: CCL results 08-06-98

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 06:14:33 06/10/98

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On June 08, 1998 at 18:42:07, Ed Schröder wrote:

>Thanks for all compliments. One thing I like to do on CCL is to play
>an NPS tournament in the tradition of the Crafty-Rebel event. This time
>with more games and not such a huge time difference, say factor 10.
>
>To some extend it will reveal something what you may expect from faster
>hardware the coming years and if speed is decisive. Is it? :)

This may have been already answered by the SSDF. Programs running on a
P90 are on average 78 points weaker than the same programs on a P200MMX,
which is roughly three times faster. This amounts to some 50 points
increase when doubling the speed. The SSDF list might be more accurate
than the NPS matches because of the many more games played and because
programs running at 10x won't have enough RAM for hashtables to compare
reliably the impact of increased time (speed).

In early 80's doubling the speed was supposed to increase strength by
100 points. About 10 years later, Larry Kaufman said it would be 70
points, and now in the SSDF list is 50. If it is true that the doubling
in speed is having less and less impact in strength over the years, this
might be interpreted as a confirmation of the law of diminishing
returns.

Enrique

>Say you play the NPS tournament, Program_X gets 4:30 per move,
>Program_Y gets 45:00 per move, both programs with permanent brain off.
>All six programs will play one game against each other. The program
>with 4:30 per move has always white otherwise the NPS tournament will
>take too long.
>
>The paring then would be:
>
>G5  - M7         N98 - H6        S2  - R9
>M7  - G5         H6  - N98       R9  - S2
>G5  - N98        R9  - H6        S2  - M7
>N98 - G5         H6  - R9        M7  - S2
>G5  - H6         S2  - N98       R9  - M7
>H6  - G5         N98 - S2        M7  - R9
>G5  - R9         S2  - H6        M7  - N98
>R9  - G5         H6  - S2        N98 - M7
>G5  - S2         R9 -  N98       M7  - H6
>S2  - G5         N98 - R9        H6  - M7
>
>Say one game takes 60 hours = 2.5 days. 30 games will take 75 days.
>Using 2 autoplayer pairs the total NPS tournament would take 30-40
>days which looks pretty acceptable to me.
>
>Interesting enough?
>
>Alternatives?
>
>Or better play the normal (10 game) 40/2:00 matches?
>
>- Ed -



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