Author: K. Burcham
Date: 11:31:11 12/22/01
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What you prove here imho is that 64...Rd8 is a clear mistake by Shredder. Attached is F7a's analysis before and after this move. Ernst. no mistake. none of the programs can see the problem until it is too late. no Ernst. if you back up one move you will see the same eval swing. back up two, three, etc. depends on program and hardware, but it is the g and f pawns. here i backed up two moves from your eval. this is 63...Qb5. next move is g6. same big eval change. Engine: Shredder 5 7.01 0:01 +3.28 1...Qa6 2.Be4 e2 3.Nxe2 Qc4 4.Bd5 Qxd5 5.Nxc3 (373.133) 222.5 7.02 0:01 +3.29++ 1...Qd7 2.Be4 (378.116) 222.2 7.02 0:01 +3.64++ 1...Qd7 2.Be4 e2 3.Nd5 (382.818) 222.4 7.02 0:02 +5.86 1...Qd7 2.Bg4 Qa7 3.Be6 a3 4.Qc2 Bb2 (516.532) 218.7 7.03 0:02 +5.87++ 1...Qe8 2.Bd5 a3 3.Qh5 Qxh5+ 4.Kxh5 Rb2 5.Be6 e2 6.Bc4 (539.835) 217.5 7.03 0:02 +5.92 1...Qe8 2.Bd5 a3 3.Qf1 Qe5 4.Qa6 Bb2 (561.220) 217.4 8.01 0:03 +5.67-- 1...Qe8 2.g6 hxg6 3.Qh1 a3 4.Kg5+ Kg8 5.Bd5+ Kf8 6.Ne6+ Qxe6 7.Qh8+ Kf7 8.Bxe6+ Kxe6 (776.985) 213.9 8.01 0:03 +5.17-- 1...Qe8 2.g6 hxg6 3.Qh1 a3 4.Kg5+ Kg8 5.Bd5+ Kf8 6.Ne6+ Kg8 7.Nc7+ Qf7 8.Bxf7+ Kf8 (793.173) 214.0 8.01 0:05 +4.22 1...Qe8 2.g6 hxg6 3.Qh1 Rb5 4.Kg4+ Rh5 5.Nxh5 Qe6+ 6.Kh4 gxh5 7.Qd1 Qxf6+ 8.Kxh5 (1.279.979) 217.2 8.02 0:06 +4.23++ 1...Qa6 2.Be4 (1.347.306) 217.2 8.02 0:07 +4.23 1...Qa6 2.Be4 d3 3.Qh5 e2 (1.535.382) 218.2 8.03 0:07 +4.24++ 1...Qd7 2.Bg4 Qa7 3.Qxd4 Qxd4 4.Ng6+ hxg6 (1.546.775) 218.2 8.03 0:07 +4.59++ 1...Qd7 2.Bg4 Qa7 3.Ng6+ hxg6 4.Qxd4 Qxd4 5.f7 a3 (1.557.351) 218.3 8.03 0:07 +5.89 1...Qd7 2.g6 hxg6 3.Nxg6+ Kh7 4.Be4 Kg8 5.Bd5+ Kh7 6.Ne7 Qa7 (1.678.002) 218.3 9.01 0:08 +5.64-- 1...Qd7 2.g6 hxg6 3.Nxg6+ Kh7 4.Be4 Re8 5.Ne7+ Qf5 6.Bxf5+ Kh8 (1.798.231) 218.0 9.01 0:08 +5.14-- 1...Qd7 2.g6 hxg6 3.Nxg6+ Kh7 4.Be4 Re8 5.Ne7+ Qf5 6.Nxf5 (1.846.187) 218.1 9.01 0:11 +1.89 1...Qd7 2.g6 d3 3.g7+ Kg8 4.Bd5+ Qxd5 5.Nxd5 e2 6.Qxd3 e1Q 7.Ne7+ Kf7 8.g8Q+ Rxg8 9.Qxh7+ Kxf6 10.Nd5+ Ke5 11.Qxg8 (2.635.636) 222.6 9.02 0:12 +1.90++ 1...Qe8 2.g6 hxg6 3.Qh1 Rb5 4.Kg4+ Rh5 5.Nxh5 gxh5+ 6.Qxh5+ Qxh5+ 7.Kf4 d3 8.Bxh5 (2.833.458) 222.9 9.02 0:13 +2.25++ 1...Qe8 2.g6 hxg6 3.Qh1 Rb5 4.Kg4+ Rh5 5.Nxh5 gxh5+ 6.Qxh5+ Qxh5+ 7.Kf4 d3 8.Bxh5 e2 9.f7 Kg7 10.Bxe2 dxe2 (2.917.670) 223.4 9.02 0:15 +4.03 1...Qe8 2.g6 hxg6 3.Qh1 Rb5 4.Kg4+ Rh5 5.Nxh5 Qe6+ 6.Kg5 Qf5+ 7.Kh6 gxh5 8.Bd1 a3 9.Qa8+ Qc8 (3.542.069) 223.6 9.03 0:18 +4.04++ 1...Qa6 2.Be4 Rb2 3.Qh5 Rh2+ 4.Nh3 Rxh3+ 5.Kxh3 Qe6+ 6.g4 Qxe4 7.f7 Kg7 8.Qh6+ Kxf7 9.Qc6 e2 (4.169.841) 222.0 9.03 0:19 +4.39++ 1...Qa6 2.Be4 Rb2 3.Qh5 Rh2+ 4.Nh3 Rxh3+ 5.Kxh3 Qe6+ 6.g4 Qxe4 7.f7 Kg7 8.Qh6+ Kxf7 9.g6+ Qxg6 10.Qxg6+ (4.278.630) 222.4 9.03 0:36 +4.39 1...Qa6 2.Be4 Rb2 3.Qg4 Qc4 4.Qd7 Qg8 5.Bd5 Qxd5 6.Nxd5 Kg8 7.Qxa4 Rh2+ 8.Kg4 h5+ 9.gxh6 Rh4+ 10.gxh4 (7.904.085) 217.3 10.01 1:04 +4.14-- 1...Qa6 2.Be4 Rb2 3.Qg4 Qc4 4.Qd7 Qg8 5.Bd5 Qxd5 6.Nxd5 Kg8 7.Qxa4 Rh2+ (13.860.756) 214.6 10.01 1:12 +3.64-- 1...Qa6 2.Be4 Rb2 3.Qg4 Qc4 4.Qd7 Qg8 5.Bd5 Qxd5 6.Nxd5 Kg8 7.Qxa4 Rh2+ (15.772.005) 216.4 10.01 2:04 +3.55 1...Qa6 2.Be4 e2 3.Nxe2 Qc4 4.Bd3 Qb4 5.Nxc3 dxc3+ 6.g4 (27.949.027) 223.9 10.02 2:09 +3.56++ 1...Qe8 2.g6 hxg6 3.Qh1 Rb5 4.Kg4+ Rh5 5.Nxh5 Qe6+ 6.Kg5 Qf5+ 7.Kh6 gxh5 8.Qxh5 Qxf6+ 9.Qg6 Qxf3 (28.876.861) 223.7 10.02 2:22 +3.91++ 1...Qe8 2.g6 hxg6 3.Qh1 Rb5 4.Kg4+ Rh5 5.Nxh5 Qe6+ 6.Kg5 Qf5+ 7.Kh6 gxh5 8.f7 Qxf7 9.Be4 (31.688.266) 222.6 10.02 2:27 +3.92 1...Qe8 2.g6 hxg6 3.Qh1 Rb5 4.Kg4+ Rh5 5.Nxh5 gxh5+ 6.Kf4 d3 7.Bxh5 Qe5+ 8.Kg4 Qd4+ 9.Kh3 a3 10.f7 (32.908.656) 222.7 11.01 3:15 +3.67-- 1...Qe8 2.g6 hxg6 3.Qh1 Rb5 4.Bd5 Rxd5 5.Qxd5 Qe5 6.Nxg6+ Kh7 7.Nxe5 a3 8.Kg4 Kh6 (43.160.257) 220.4 11.01 3:23 +3.17-- 1...Qe8 2.g6 hxg6 3.Qh1 Rb5 4.Bd5 Rxd5 5.Qxd5 Qe5 6.Nxg6+ Kh7 7.Nxe5 a3 8.Kg4 Kh6 9.Kf4 e2 10.f7 Bd2+ 11.Ke4 (44.957.731) 220.7 11.01 4:16 +0.99 1...Qe8 2.g6 Rd8 3.g7+ Kg8 4.Nd5 Qe5 5.Qb1 d3 6.Qa2 Qxd5 (56.581.166) 220.9 best move: Qc6-e8 time: 4:29.830 min n/s: 220.702 nodes: 59.550.166 7.01 0:00 -3.92 2.Bd5 Qb2 3.g6 Qh2+ 4.Kg4 hxg6 5.Nxg6+ Kh7 6.Nf4 Re8 7.Qxa4 Qe2+ 8.Nxe2 (128.444) 222.2 8.01 0:01 -4.17-- 2.Bd5 Qb2 3.g6 Qh2+ 4.Kg4 hxg6 5.Nxg6+ Kh7 6.Qxd4 Qxg3+ 7.Kh5 (287.735) 219.1 8.01 0:01 -4.17 2.Bd5 Qb2 3.g6 a3 4.g7+ (367.676) 215.0 9.01 0:04 -3.92++ 2.Bd5 Qb2 3.g6 Rg8 4.g7+ Rxg7 5.fxg7+ (1.047.494) 212.3 9.01 0:05 -3.92 2.Bd5 Qb2 3.Qxd4 Qh2+ 4.Nh3 Bxd4 (1.161.352) 213.5 10.01 0:12 -4.16 2.Bd5 e2 3.Qxe2 Qxe2 4.Nxe2 Rd8 5.Bc4 Bd2 6.Nf4 Bxf4 7.Bb3 axb3 (2.811.611) 220.2 10.02 0:31 -4.15++ 2.g6 hxg6 3.Nxg6+ Kh7 4.Ne7 d3 5.Qh1 Qb1 6.Be4+ Kh8 7.Qf3 a3 8.Qh5+ (6.947.092) 221.6 10.02 0:37 -3.80++ 2.g6 hxg6 3.Nxg6+ Kh7 4.Ne7 d3 5.Qh1 Qb1 6.Be4+ Kh8 7.Qf3 Bb4 8.Qxe3 Qf1 9.Kg5 (8.267.006) 222.5 10.02 2:30 -1.54 2.g6 d3 3.g7+ Kg8 4.Bd5+ Qxd5 5.Nxd5 e2 6.Qxd3 e1Q 7.Ne7+ Kf7 8.g8Q+ Rxg8 9.Qxh7+ Kxf6 10.Nxg8+ Ke5 11.Qe7+ Kd4 (35.495.301) 236.0 11.01 4:56 -1.29++ 2.g6 d3 3.g7+ Kg8 4.Bd5+ Qxd5 5.Nxd5 e2 6.Qxd3 e1Q 7.Ne7+ Kf7 8.g8Q+ Rxg8 9.Qxh7+ Ke8 10.f7+ Kd7 11.fxg8Q (68.689.512) 231.4 11.01 5:58 -1.00 2.g6 d3 3.g7+ Kg8 4.Bd5+ Qxd5 5.Nxd5 e2 6.Qxd3 e1Q 7.Ne7+ Kf7 8.g8Q+ Rxg8 9.Qxh7+ Kxf6 10.Nxg8+ Ke6 11.Qe7+ Kf5 12.Nh6+ (82.764.260) 231.1 12.01 12:37 -0.75++ 2.g6 d3 3.g7+ Kg8 4.Bd5+ Qxd5 5.Nxd5 e2 6.Qxd3 e1Q 7.Ne7+ Kf7 8.g8Q+ Rxg8 9.Qxh7+ Kxf6 10.Nxg8+ Ke6 11.Qe7+ Kf5 12.Qh7+ Ke6 13.Qe7+ (172.291.741) 227.5 12.01 15:39 -0.25++ 2.g6 d3 3.g7+ Kg8 4.Bd5+ Qxd5 5.Nxd5 e2 6.Qxd3 e1Q 7.Ne7+ Kf7 8.g8Q+ Rxg8 9.Qxh7+ Kxf6 10.Nxg8+ Ke6 11.Qe7+ Kf5 12.Qd7+ Ke5 13.Qxa4 (212.987.218) 226.6 12.01 31:58 +0.12 2.g6 Rg8 3.g7+ Rxg7 4.fxg7+ Kxg7 5.Bd5 Qd7 6.Qh5 Qe7+ 7.Kh3 d3 8.Qg4+ Kh6 9.Nxd3 e2 10.Qxa4 e1Q 11.Qc6+ (435.027.588) 226.7 best move: g5-g6 time: 70:20.971 min n/s: 226.304 nodes: 955.222.254 kburcham
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