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Subject: Re: Nimzo 7.32 and Nimzo 2000 - which is better?

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 02:10:38 12/23/01

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On December 22, 2001 at 21:58:59, Albert Silver wrote:

>On December 22, 2001 at 17:36:53, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>
>>On December 22, 2001 at 16:42:08, Albert Silver wrote:
>>
>>>On December 22, 2001 at 16:26:01, Graham Banks wrote:
>>>
>>>>Just wondering. Would appreciate somebody letting me know.
>>>>Regards, Graham.
>>>
>>>Nimzo 7.32 is the strongest and then would come Nimzo 2000b (there are two Nimzo
>>>2000 versions - 2000a and 2000b). Mind you, Nimzo 2000 is a Winboard engine
>>>whereas Nimzo 7.32 is a CB engine. There is also Nimzo 8, but there is some
>>>controversy as to whether it is actually any better than Nimzo 7.32.
>>>
>>>                                       Albert
>>
>>Hi Albert,
>>
>>normaly this is right because Nimzo 7.32 used endgame databases.
>>Nimzo 2000b is after my information 4 days older. Only one or two other
>>parameter if I understand Chrilly in Leiden 99 correct. But I believe the
>>strongest version is WB Nimzo 2000b, available on the Millennium WM Paket 2001.
>>
>>Nimzo 2000b and Nimzo 7.32 are for me a very little bit stronger as Nimzo 8.
>>Also interesting is a very late Nimzo 2000a version (not the 2000a version on
>>the Millennium CDs). On the Millennium CDs is WB Nimzo 2000 and WB Nimzo 2000a
>>the same version. For a WinBoard tourney we got a newer Nimzo 2000a version and
>>this version is also very very strong. I believe we play with this newer 2000a
>>version in WT_5 tournament (Kai Skibbe and myself for 2-3 years).
>>
>>Nimzo 2000b is 100 ELO stronger compare to Nimzo 2000a and the same WB Nimzo
>>2000 version, and also stronger as the newer Nimzo 2000a version with Chilly
>>private send for WT_5 tournament. Chrilly created in this time x WB Nimzo 2000a
>>versions :-)
>>
>>Hm, I hope easy to understand what I write here :-))
>>
>>The sympatical programmer (Chrilly Donninger) must work on his program because
>>on Winboarder wish list is standing a new Nimzo version ...
>>
>>Best
>>Frank
>
>Thanks Frank, that's very interesting. I have the Millenium Packet 2001, but
>didn't realize the Nimzo 2000b included was so strong and thought it was weaker
>than Nimzo 7.32 (for no good reason it is true). If they are so close in
>strength then I will test them to see the differences. This is quite pleasing as
>that will mean I should definitely leave Nimzo on my CA engine list.
>
>                                        Albert

Hi Albert,

Nimzo is a good deal.
Compatible to all comercial GUIs and very strong, works fine.
Interesting for Winboarders is also the WB menue "Help / Book" :-)

Chrilly have a very good own Nimzo 2000 GUI. I hope that Chrilly in the future
work on his own GUI with new possibilitys.

You can looked in my CCE tourney. Here are playing 3 Nimzo versions.
I believe the ELO from all latest Nimzo versions are ~ -+ 25 Points. King safty
is a problem in Nimzo, looked in the Patzer games from Leiden for an example.
Patzer with 2 very short games with nice king attacks.

Do you have try UCI AnMon vs. UCI Shredder 5.0 :-)
AnMon made a lot of points against Shredder ...

Best
Frank



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