Author: Torstein Hall
Date: 06:01:53 12/27/01
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On December 27, 2001 at 08:26:18, Uri Blass wrote: >On December 27, 2001 at 08:11:39, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On December 26, 2001 at 17:32:14, Sune Larsson wrote: >> >>>On December 26, 2001 at 17:10:35, Martin Müller wrote: >>> >>>>Hi all, >>>> >>>>here the game: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Shredder 6 - Plaskett,GM [E21] >>>>26.12.2001 >>>>[Müller,Martin] >>>> >>>>800MB, LINKS >>>> 1.Sf3 Sf6 2.c4 e6 3.Sc3 Lb4 4.d4 b6 5.Dc2 Lb7 6.a3 Le4 7.Dd1 Lxc3+ 8.bxc3 d6 >>>>9.e3 c5 10.Le2 0-0 11.0-0 Sc6 12.Lb2 De7 13.Sd2 Lg6 14.Tc1 Tac8 15.Te1 Sa5 >>>>16.Sb3 Sxb3 17.Dxb3 e5 18.Da4 h5 19.Lf3 Se4 20.Le2 f5 21.Tcd1 Tc7 22.Ld3 Sf6 >>>>23.Dc2 e4 24.Le2 Lf7 25.Tc1 Tfc8 26.Da4 Dd7 27.Db3 Le8 28.Da2 Da4 29.Ld1 Da6 >>>>30.Le2 Lf7 31.d5 Le8 32.Tcd1 La4 33.Td2 Te8 34.h3 Tce7 35.Lf1 Dc8 36.Tde2 Kh7 >>>>37.Td2 g5 38.Db1 Kh6 39.Lc1 Tg8 40.Le2 De8 41.Tb2 Kg7 42.Ld2 Kh8 43.Tf1 Ld7 >>>>(Tc7) 44.Dc2 -0.82/13 1:51 Teg7 (g4) 45.Tbb1 -1.02/12 1:41 De5 (f4) 46.Lc1 >>>> -1.40/12 48 h4 47.Kh1 -3.11/14 1:09 g4 48.hxg4 -2.16/13 15 Sxg4 49.Lxg4 >>>> -1.97/14 0 Txg4 50.Tg1 -3.34/14 1:38 Dg7 (Le8) 51.De2 -2.81/14 30 Le8 >>>>52.Df1 -4.40/14 14 Lh5 53.Ld2 -4.64/15 51 Dh7 (Df6) 54.Kh2 -4.39/14 1:12 >>>> Tg3 55.Te1 -4.85/14 33 Lf3 56.gxf3 -5.33/17 0 Txg1 (exf3) 57.Dxg1 >>>>-4.27/15 17 Txg1 58.Txg1 -4.57/16 0 exf3 59.e4 -4.64/16 9 fxe4 (De7) >>>>60.Tg4 -4.48/15 1:05 0-1 >>> >>> >>> What a lesson! Shredder was totally chanceless here... >>> >>> Sune >> >> >>I was interested to know what was the losing material >>move of shredder so I tried yace(only material) version to go >>backward in order to find out the losing mistake. >> >>The values of material that yace knows are: >>Queen=10.01,Rook=5,Bishop=3.5,Knight=3.4,Pawn=0.8 >> >>Here is some analysis of yace after learning that the game >>positions were not good: >> >>Yace seems to say that 45.R2b1 was losing material when >>45.Be1 was better. >> >>Yace also believes that later moves in the game >>(46.Bc1 and 47.Kh1) were blunders but maybe >>it simply cannot see deep enough becaue it has no game to learn >>that 45.Be1,46.Rfe1,47.f3 are also bad. >> <LARGE SNIP> I think it is obvious that the game was gone for white at move 45. No improvment in 45.Be1 eg. 45...f4 etc. etc. I think white in a "higher sence" lost at the move 7.Qd1. I think 7.Qd2 Bxc3 8.Qxc3 0-0 is about equal and white is not stuck with the bad double pawn. Should give Shredder a better chanse to play the position. Torstein
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