Author: Mark Young
Date: 07:58:52 06/12/98
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On June 12, 1998 at 07:10:17, blass uri wrote: > >On June 11, 1998 at 18:27:25, Mark Young wrote: > > >>>>Just for fun I tried to answer this. My data shows about a 45 point gain >>>>in rating if you double the speed of a program running on a P II 266. >>> >>>what is the fast time control that you doubled in your data? >>>> >>>>You would need a P II 93000 >>>>to get a 3.125 point elo gain, if you doubled its speed. Running todays >>>>software. >>> >>>how did you get 93000? >>>what is the formula that you are based on? >>>> >>I took my data that I had on NPS matches. Noted the change in rating >>performance for the data I had. What it showed was as computers get >>faster the change in rating from a doubling get less and less. So from >>my data I calculated how fast a P II would have to be in MHz to only >>gain 2 to 5 elo points, if its speed were doubled. > >I do not understand what is the formula doubling get less >you say f(266)=45(you gain 45 elo on aPII266) >f(93000)=3.125 >but what is the function f you are based on? >f(x)=c/(x^d) when c and d are constants can be a function. > :) I'm not saying. but you should be about to figure it out from the info given. >>Based on my limited >>data. Now remember this is for a computer playing chess at 3 min a >>move. If a P II 93000 only played at one sec a move then a doubling >>would gain more points. >>The same way as it does today. The faster the time control the more >>rating gain you will get playing a slower computer. Example PII 300 Vs >>PII 266 playing the same program. At 3 min a move avg. The ratings gain >>from a P II 266 to a P II 300 is next to nothing. If you played them at >>1 sec a move avg. The gain in ratings because much more. >>I don't claim this will be accurate. As the data was made with many >>chess programs old and new. But I think it might be somewhat close. >> >>Don’t take this too seriously as it was done in fun. >> >>The formula was based on the data. Noting the change in rating to the >>change in speed of the computer. On a doubling at 3 min a move. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>It may not be right. But I gave it a try.:) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>My speculation is 10-20 as the current top programs at such fast >>>>>machines are already so good that they can't be slaughtered with >>>>>your suggested 5-25. >>>>> >>>>>- Ed - >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>This just will tell us nothing. I suppose you think differently. So can >>>>>>you please explain what kind of lesson you are expecting from this? >>>>> >>>>>>But OK, as I said, this has to be done at least one time. >>>>> >>>>>>And BTW I hope to be wrong. I like to be surprised! >>>>> >>>>>> Christophe
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