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Subject: Re: Pentium 4 2.0 Gig with RDRAM vs. Athlon 1900+ with DDR PC266 1600-2100

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 13:10:10 12/30/01

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On December 30, 2001 at 15:28:29, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On December 30, 2001 at 12:35:29, Brian Katz wrote:
>
>For diep benchmarks see aceshardware.com
>
>K7 is blowing away the P4 (with rdram).
>
>Rdram has big bandwidthbut that is nothing compared to its
>huge latency.
>
>nevertheless right now RAM says less than cpu speed. the P4 has
>huge penalties for branch mispredictions. like 50% more at least than
>the K7. That's what makes the real difference, together with the
>biggest factor: CACHE SIZE.
>
>P4 can have like 8000 instructions in cache.
>
>K7 has 128KB L1 cache.
>
>that's huge difference, even when instructions are long and complex!

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,77564,00.asp

>>  I have recently asked many questions regarding Pent 4 2.0 Gig vs the Athlon
>>1900+, and have received many replies. Thank you. It is greatly appreciated!
>>  The general consensus is that the Athlon 1900+ outperforms the Pentium 4 2.0
>>Gig by far when run with most chess programs.
>>  I was just speaking to a technician at a local PC store about this issue.
>>His view is that all the tests between the Athlons and the Pentium, where the
>>Athlons were scoring better, were with the Peniums using only SDRAM instead of
>>models using the faster RDRAM. He insisted that the bottleneck caused by using
>>the SDRAM was one of the reasons. He also stated that with RDRAM where you can
>>have BUS Speeds of 400-600 ( Athlon only 266) should allow the Pentium 4 to blow
>>the Athlon away.
>>  He did go on to say that the Pentium will have a 3.5 GIG processor in about a
>>years time. (Yes he said 3.5 GIG)
>>He also went on to say that the Athlon Motherboards were a bit unsteady and
>>caused some problems.
>>  I just happened to ask about getting the new Athlon 2000+ when it is
>>available, and would it be possible to upgrade to a DUAL 2000+ Processor? That
>>is when he said the Athlon Motherboards are unsteady when purchasing the
>>moterboards. However, the Manufacturer made computers with Athlons seemed to be
>>fine.
>>
>>  I am ready to go out and Purchase an Athlon 2000+ as soon as they become
>>available, perphaps they already are.
>>  If anyone can shed some light on any of the issues, it would greatly
>>appreciated.
>>
>>Thank you and Happy New Year to everyone!!



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