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Subject: Re: Pentium 4 2.0 Gig with RDRAM vs. Athlon 1900+ with DDR PC266 1600-2100

Author: Aaron Gordon

Date: 13:13:15 12/30/01

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AthlonXP 2000+ is also out.. and even the 1900+ is still faster than the 2.2 P4
(even with 512K L2).


On December 30, 2001 at 16:10:10, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On December 30, 2001 at 15:28:29, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On December 30, 2001 at 12:35:29, Brian Katz wrote:
>>
>>For diep benchmarks see aceshardware.com
>>
>>K7 is blowing away the P4 (with rdram).
>>
>>Rdram has big bandwidthbut that is nothing compared to its
>>huge latency.
>>
>>nevertheless right now RAM says less than cpu speed. the P4 has
>>huge penalties for branch mispredictions. like 50% more at least than
>>the K7. That's what makes the real difference, together with the
>>biggest factor: CACHE SIZE.
>>
>>P4 can have like 8000 instructions in cache.
>>
>>K7 has 128KB L1 cache.
>>
>>that's huge difference, even when instructions are long and complex!
>
>http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,77564,00.asp
>
>>>  I have recently asked many questions regarding Pent 4 2.0 Gig vs the Athlon
>>>1900+, and have received many replies. Thank you. It is greatly appreciated!
>>>  The general consensus is that the Athlon 1900+ outperforms the Pentium 4 2.0
>>>Gig by far when run with most chess programs.
>>>  I was just speaking to a technician at a local PC store about this issue.
>>>His view is that all the tests between the Athlons and the Pentium, where the
>>>Athlons were scoring better, were with the Peniums using only SDRAM instead of
>>>models using the faster RDRAM. He insisted that the bottleneck caused by using
>>>the SDRAM was one of the reasons. He also stated that with RDRAM where you can
>>>have BUS Speeds of 400-600 ( Athlon only 266) should allow the Pentium 4 to blow
>>>the Athlon away.
>>>  He did go on to say that the Pentium will have a 3.5 GIG processor in about a
>>>years time. (Yes he said 3.5 GIG)
>>>He also went on to say that the Athlon Motherboards were a bit unsteady and
>>>caused some problems.
>>>  I just happened to ask about getting the new Athlon 2000+ when it is
>>>available, and would it be possible to upgrade to a DUAL 2000+ Processor? That
>>>is when he said the Athlon Motherboards are unsteady when purchasing the
>>>moterboards. However, the Manufacturer made computers with Athlons seemed to be
>>>fine.
>>>
>>>  I am ready to go out and Purchase an Athlon 2000+ as soon as they become
>>>available, perphaps they already are.
>>>  If anyone can shed some light on any of the issues, it would greatly
>>>appreciated.
>>>
>>>Thank you and Happy New Year to everyone!!



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