Author: Jorge Pichard
Date: 09:59:14 12/31/01
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On December 31, 2001 at 12:49:06, Jeroen van Dorp wrote: >>1.ChessMaster 8000 = 2520 (Original, Non of the modified Personalities) >>2.Gandalf = 2533 >>3.Nimzo 8 = 2555 >>4.Which do you select as the fourth weakest Commercial Chess Proram? >> >>PS: If you compare them on equal hardware the weakest programs according to the >>SSDF on K6-2 450 MHz are in this order. > > >Gandalf 4.32h is number 7 on the list, with a rating of 2647. Gandalf 5 is >probably stronger, and hasn't been tested yet. >Hiarcs 7.32 on K6 is both below Nimzo 8 and Gandalf. For Rebel Century 3 the >same, yet is did very well against very strong human players. > >Letting Gandalf 4.32h play on faster hardware makes it jump from 25th to 7th >place. What would happen with ChessMaster 8000 on 28 with faster hardware? Not >long ago it topped the list. With a margin now of 44-45 points it could be >anywhere between place 19 and 33. If the jump in strenght by faster hardware >would be the same for CM as for Gandalf 4.32h it could be anywhere between place >4 and 13 or so. The solution would be very simple, if all the latest versions would be tested on the SSDF using Athlon 1200 MHz, instead of just a few. Jorge > >It's always nice to be busy with your hobby, but both the results and the >discussions following will render the results useless, like the discussion about >the "strongest" program. > >As long as there are so many definitions of a strong program and a weak program, >you could also start a discussion about the most blue program, or the most >Dutch. > >And above that you are going to publish a program name with a very negative >connotation, just after a "small round robin tournament". Just when we >established that a sensible comparison between chess programs consists of a lot >of games played at various time controls. > >Again, I'm not discouraging your efforts, but the SSDF-list gives us a lot more >insight - because we can see what the difference in hardware can establish, what >a new version does against it's older version, and that all with a respectable >lot of games. > >Shouting "X is the best" is almost always discarded here, but at least not >negative. For "Y is the worst" the cards change. Just my opinion. > >J.
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