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Subject: Re: Moderation: Warning to all!!

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 22:45:53 01/01/02

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On January 01, 2002 at 20:23:49, Michael Cummings wrote:

>On January 01, 2002 at 13:57:50, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>On January 01, 2002 at 04:06:10, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>>
>>>On December 31, 2001 at 15:14:56, Kevin Strickland wrote:
>>>
>>>>This afternoon I got an email from Gogi Cviak (cvrcko1@hotmail.com) with a sub7
>>>>virus attached stating that it was the first in his "wave" of attacks against
>>>>the people of this forum for making fun of him and providing details of his
>>>>emails to some of us.
>>>>
>>>>I have only one thing to say to you Gogi. I hope you enjoy no internet service
>>>>or atleast having to switch them. I have informed Hotmail of your actions with
>>>>their service, and as part of their ToS they will inform your isp.
>>>>
>>>>Happy New Year.
>>>>
>>>>PS - Take off the damn CAPS.
>>>
>>>This guy deserve to be banned from this forum and I hope that Steve or
>>>Moderators already took steps...
>>>
>>>Happy New Year,
>>>Otello.
>>
>>To make it clear, I am an ex-moderator, but I put "moderation" in the title
>>because that's what we are talking about.
>>
>>Whether or not this guy *should* be gotten rid of is an interesting and very
>>serious question.
>>
>>If he had said rude things to all of us *here*, of the same magnitude as sending
>>someone a virus in the mail, he'd probably be gone.
>>
>>If he had never posted here, and instead all of this had sprung from discussions
>>elsewhere, like for instance r.g.c.c., there is no argument to ban him here.
>>
>>That he has seemingly taken "outside" revenge based upon arguments taking place
>>here is an interesting middle ground, and any action taken in this case should
>>come after a *lot* of consideration by the moderators.
>>
>>That he sent me or Christophe or Bob rude email has no bearing on CCC, I think.
>>He probably thought to contact me because I answered one of his posts here, but
>>beyond that it was just an email interaction that went a little sour, and the
>>case is not at all related to anything that happened on the board.  The same is
>>probably true of Bob and Christophe.
>>
>>These cases are like cases where one member sues another over something that
>>happened outside.  The board shouldn't take sides in these cases.  That someone
>>won the court case doesn't mean that the other guy loses his account.
>>
>>I'm more concerned about this case where someone gets into an argument here, and
>>as a direct consequence intentionally sends someone a virus.  That is probably a
>>real crime of some sort, or at least it is *very* nasty and malicious, and
>>furthermore it's obviously very closely *related* to posts made here.
>>
>>I don't want to have to deal with people who do that.  If someone gets a
>>reputation for sending viruses or threats or harassing email if you argue with
>>them, I think that's grounds for getting rid of the account.
>>
>>bruce
>
>He is sending emails containing virus's to members of this forum saying it is
>the first wave of attacks against this forum. The virus is one it which when
>infecting the persons computer will be able to give him access.
>
>Sending emails like this is a crime, especially when you state you are doing
>this for revenge, etc.
>
>I sent a moderator email to steve, with him saying to send the email details,
>but I hope other people kept theirs, because anything with a virus I totally
>wipe strait away. So my proof is wiped.

Did he hit you, too?

I didn't get hit, but I've made arrangements that may make it harder for him to
hit me, so perhaps he tried and I avoided getting hit.

bruce




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