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Subject: Re: CCT4: almost all the top programs are there!

Author: Will Singleton

Date: 20:18:12 01/02/02

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On January 02, 2002 at 21:05:08, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On January 02, 2002 at 20:29:11, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>On January 02, 2002 at 12:42:21, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>On January 02, 2002 at 07:58:26, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:
>>>[snip]
>>>>It would be nice if also Tiger, Rebel and Nimzo (and some other programs) join,
>>>>I keep my fingers crossed.
>>>
>>>I would be very surprised if they do join, and I admire Hiarcs courage for
>>>joining.  If Hiarcs can win on a single CPU machine, it will be amazing.
>>>
>>>Look at the commercial entrants of Deep Fritz and Deep Junior -- any single CPU
>>>professional program will have a 50% speed disadvantage.  Chances are good they
>>>will end up looking foolish if they join.  That is why they stay away:
>>>FEAR
>>
>>
>>You are right, it *is* fear as you say. Not the fear to lose but the fear of
>>being a candidate to accusations of cheating and accusations have been happened
>>in CCT1. Sorry but this my main obstacle.
>
>The fear of being called a cheater might be legitimate if it has happened
>before.  Opinions clearly differ, but I think the risk of cheating is grotesqely
>overblown.

How do you define cheating?  There have been several accusations in the past,
like hand-playing opening lines, etc.  Many, many ways to cheat.

The main problem is that there is no verification of the program that is
actually playing.  So, Ed could be playing against a program calling itself
BottomFeeder from Lower Slobovia, which plays at 2000 elo some games, but at
2600 elo (as Fritz) other games.

The CCT tourneys will never gain widespread respect and interest, and will
certainly never approach the WMCC, unless some method for verification of
sources and binaries is feasible.

Will



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