Author: Albert Silver
Date: 05:28:56 01/03/02
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On January 03, 2002 at 07:55:41, Ed Schröder wrote:
>On January 03, 2002 at 07:47:26, Albert Silver wrote:
>
>>On January 03, 2002 at 04:55:47, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>
>>>On January 02, 2002 at 20:41:36, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 02, 2002 at 20:29:11, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Last, I have no time. Loek van Wely is on the menu and Gandalf 5 is going to
>>>>>play 4 correspondence games against 4 x IM's. I need all my time for those 2 new
>>>>>events.
>>>>
>>>>Fear or no fear, the net result is that Rebel and Tiger are about
>>>>the only strong professionals that are missing from the field from
>>>>what is becoming a more and more important tournament. It seems
>>>>that your competitors do not have the same reservations as you
>>>>do.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>As Dann said, no time is a bad excuse.
>>>
>>>You have no right to label it this way. I have listed my objections against this
>>>type of tournaments quite well. From CCT1 I remember a certain programmer to
>>>call another programmer a cheater. Being once a victim of such slander which has
>>>bugged me for years I refuse to put myself into a vulnerable position.
>>>
>>>Ed
>>
>>If you mean the dispute between Amir and Bob, my memory of it is a bit different
>>(not cheating) but could be faulty. If it's something else, you'll have to
>>remind me. I was there handling TSCP for Tom BTW. In any case, they were at ends
>>due to a dispute that had nothing to do with CCT1, and due to some automated
>>function in the Crafty account, Amir's account was on the Censor list. When
>>their round was due to start, Bob hadn't arrived yet, and Amir was on a warpath
>>claiming this was a deliberate maneuver on Bob's end and claimed he was leaving.
>>A few minutes later, a couple of minutes before the round was due to start, Bob
>>arrived and when told about it, corrected the mistake, but Amir wanted some kind
>>of public apology or something. Eventually they both played as they were th
>>tournament leaders and Junior went down. In any case, as far as CCT1 is
>>concerned that's the only issue I can recall, other than Diepeveen's terrible
>>connection problems, though none held it against him. Please note that both are
>>in the event. :-)
>>
>
>
>No I wasn't aiming at the Amir-Bob case.
>
>Ed
What then? I don't remember. In any case, I think that it shouldn't bar you from
participating. I think the idea of providing the game logs after the games to be
a good one. it's not perfect by any means, but it will go a long way in quelling
immediate accusations. Doctoring such logs at full speed would be very tough.
Have the logs include expected moves as well as all analyzed plies (not just the
mainline). This sort of event really needs to be supported IMO as the WMCCs are
just impossible for many programmers. This is the closest one can get to a true
WMCC IMHO, however imperfect or vulnerable it may be, and the turnout already
promises an absolutely fascinating event. Why not help close the circle?
Albert
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