Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: CCT4: almost all the top programs are there!

Author: Mogens Larsen

Date: 06:22:20 01/03/02

Go up one level in this thread


On January 03, 2002 at 08:07:11, Albert Silver wrote:

>Personally I don't get it. If the issue is cheating such as advanced players,
>etc, then demand that all programmers submit their program's logs BEFORE the
>next round starts. Since all programs involved are there with the knowledge and
>blessing of their authors, this can't be too hard to do. I'm not saying this is
>foolproof, of course not, but it sure makes it harder, and advanced players
>would have a hard time at it, making up the entire mainline and eval, etc.
>Still, cheating could happen anywhere at anytime, and if one is going to shirk
>an event because of this possibility, then you won't ever be able to compete.
>
>I have been the object of such an accusation once in a tournament, and it was
>quite unpleasant, though utter nonsense. The arbiter knew me though, and threw
>the idea out the window as soon as it came to his ears, but it still needed
>resolving. I have met the guy twice OTB since then, and make a special case of
>pounding him to pieces (OTB). Not too hard really since he is less adept
>tactically and rated some 200 points less.
>
>Millennium comes to mind obviously in regards to the SSDF, and possibly even CB,
>though in the latter case it wasn't so clear-cut. CB's restrictions on
>participation were on the hardware used. Fritz's autoplayer would only run if
>the hardware met certain conditions which caused a considerable stir at the
>time.

I tend to agree. The organizational burdens are not insurmountable compared to
those of the amateurs and there no or very few possible threats to the image
involved. You could argue that the image broadcasted by not participating, and
the more less convincing reasons behind doing so, are just as harmful as an
unfortunate result would be. Not to mention the fact that the whole World isn't
watching. It's still an obscure event by most standards imaginable, so it
shouldn't provoke anxiety or trepidation.

Regards,
Mogens



This page took 0.01 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.