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Subject: Re: I was complete wrong! There is no progress (except in Yace)...

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:12:21 01/03/02

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On January 03, 2002 at 01:05:14, Jouni Uski wrote:

>[D]k7/P7/P7/P7/P7/P7/P7/R3K3 w Q - 0 1
>
>Mate in 8
>
>I tried this at home with Tiger14 and Fritz7 and Shredder5.32. None of them has
>any idea about mate in 8. Then I tried with Mate2.1, but no solution under 30
>minutes. What's the problem? Only Yace gives CORRECT mate in few seconds. Is
>this null move problem?
>
>Jouni


This isn't particularly hard... here is my output from a P3/750 laptop:

               13->  16.78  Mat11   1. O-O-O Kxa7 2. Rd7+ Ka8 3. Kc2 Kb8
                                    4. Kc3 Ka8 5. Rd8+ Ka7 6. Kc2 Kxa6
                                    <HT>
               14    24.59  Mat09   1. O-O-O Kxa7 2. Rd7+ Ka8 3. Kc2 Kb8
                                    4. Kc3 Ka8 5. Rd8+ Ka7 6. Kc4 Kxa6
                                    7. Rd7 Kxa5 8. Rd6 Kxa4 9. Ra6#
               14->  28.78  Mat09   1. O-O-O Kxa7 2. Rd7+ Ka8 3. Kc2 Kb8
                                    4. Kc3 Ka8 5. Rd8+ Ka7 6. Kc4 Kxa6
                                    7. Rd7 Kxa5 8. Rd6 Kxa4 9. Ra6#
               15     1:06  Mat08   1. O-O-O Kxa7 2. Rd8 Kxa6 3. Rd7 Kxa5
                                    4. Rd6 Kxa4 5. Rd5 Kxa3 6. Rd4 Kxa2
                                    7. Rd3 Ka1 8. Ra3#
               15->   1:16  Mat08   1. O-O-O Kxa7 2. Rd8 Kxa6 3. Rd7 Kxa5
                                    4. Rd6 Kxa4 5. Rd5 Kxa3 6. Rd4 Kxa2
                                    7. Rd3 Ka1 8. Ra3#


Takes a bit to find the shortest mate, but it finds a mate very quickly,
starting at about 1.5 seconds...


With tablebases, it finds the correct mate quicker:

               10     1.90     ++   1. Ke2!!
         (2)   10     2.22  Mat08   1. O-O-O Kxa7 2. Rd8 Kxa6 3. Rd7 Kxa5
                                    4. Rd6 Kxa4 <HT>
         (3)   10->   2.41  Mat08   1. O-O-O Kxa7 2. Rd8 Kxa6 3. Rd7 Kxa5
                                    4. Rd6 Kxa4 <HT>
         (2)   11     2.83  Mat08   1. O-O-O Kxa7 2. Rd8 Kxa6 3. Rd7 Kxa5
                                    4. Rd6 Kxa4 <HT>
         (3)   11->   3.85  Mat08   1. O-O-O Kxa7 2. Rd8 Kxa6 3. Rd7 Kxa5
                                    4. Rd6 Kxa4 <HT>
         (2)   12     4.35  Mat08   1. O-O-O Kxa7 2. Rd8 Kxa6 3. Rd7 Kxa5
                                    4. Rd6 Kxa4 <HT>
         (2)   12->   5.25  Mat08   1. O-O-O Kxa7 2. Rd8 Kxa6 3. Rd7 Kxa5
                                    4. Rd6 Kxa4 <HT>




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