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Subject: Re: Does anyone's program see that this is dead lost?

Author: Peter Kappler

Date: 23:55:11 01/03/02

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On January 04, 2002 at 02:03:27, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On January 04, 2002 at 01:51:03, Thomas Mayer wrote:
>
>>Hi Dann,
>>
>>> The funny thing is, a human can see it at a glance.
>>
>>Well, Quark initally smells some troubles for white... after about 20 secs
>>(Athlon 1400) at ply 13 it fails low to -1.54 which I would not call dead lost,
>>but after that it is falling down each iteration to under -3.60 after 6 minutes
>>- that is for comps most of the time dead lost... :) But I believe some other
>>engines would be much better here...
>
>Quark, Crafty, Chess Tiger and Yace stated to see eventually.  It seems like it
>should be so easy for a computer to see this one by static eval.


I think Ricardo summed it up well in his other post.  Yes, at a quick glance
Black looks much better, but it really does take some deep calculation to be
certain.  (You'd be crazy to resign that position, even against a very strong
player.)

You'd lose your mind trying to write code that could accurately evaluate this
statically.  For example, move White's king to d4 *or* his pawn to h5, and the
position is drawn.

Chess is hard, Dann.  :)

-Peter



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