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Subject: Re: a simple test position that is hard for Shredder and hiarcs7.32

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 15:10:03 01/04/02

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On January 04, 2002 at 06:57:53, Uri Blass wrote:

>How much time do programs need to avoid 74.Nxb5
>Most programs need few seconds when
>Hiarcs7.32(48 Mbytes hash) needs almost 10 minutes on p800
>
>Shredder6 could not avoid Nxb5 even in 112 seconds
>based on the pgn of it's games against tiger aggresive.
>
>Shredder 6 - Gambit Tiger 2.0
>[D]8/5rbk/6q1/1p1Q4/1PpP2p1/2N2p2/5PP1/3R2K1 w - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Hiarcs 7.32:
>
>74.Nxb5 fxg2 75.Kxg2
>  +-  (1.60)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
>74.Nxb5 fxg2
>  ±  (1.23)   Depth: 2/10   00:00:00
>74.Nxb5 fxg2 75.Qxg2
>  ±  (0.76)   Depth: 2/10   00:00:00
>74.Nxb5 fxg2
>  ±  (1.01)   Depth: 3/13   00:00:00
>74.Nxb5 fxg2
>  ±  (1.01)   Depth: 3/14   00:00:00
>74.Nxb5 fxg2 75.Qxc4 Qf5 76.Rd2
>  ±  (1.07)   Depth: 4/14   00:00:00
>74.Nxb5 fxg2
>  ±  (0.81)   Depth: 5/16   00:00:00  8kN
>74.Nxb5 fxg2
>  ±  (0.81)   Depth: 5/19   00:00:00  15kN
>74.Nxb5 Rf5
>  ²  (0.56)   Depth: 6/21   00:00:00  74kN
>74.Nxb5 Rf5 75.Qd7 Rh5 76.Nd6
>  =  (-0.01)   Depth: 6/23   00:00:01  100kN
>74.Nxb5 Rf5
>  ³  (-0.26)   Depth: 7/23   00:00:02  222kN
>74.Nxb5 Rf5 75.Qxc4 Qh5 76.Qc2 g3 77.gxf3 Qh2+
>  ³  (-0.38)   Depth: 7/25   00:00:02  279kN
>74.Nxb5 Rf5
>  ³  (-0.63)   Depth: 8/25   00:00:06  686kN
>74.Nxb5 Rf5
>  ³  (-0.63)   Depth: 8/27   00:00:08  837kN
>74.Nxb5 Rf5
>  ³  (-0.38)   Depth: 9/27   00:00:39  3940kN
>74.Nxb5 Rf5 75.Qxc4 Qh5 76.Qc2 g3 77.gxf3
>  ³  (-0.38)   Depth: 9/29   00:00:43  4378kN
>74.Nxb5 Rf5
>  ³  (-0.63)   Depth: 10/29   00:01:20  8215kN
>74.Nxb5 Rf5 75.Qxc4 Qh5 76.Qc7 g3 77.Qxg3 Rg5 78.Nc3 Rxg3 79.fxg3
>  -+  (-1.59)   Depth: 10/30   00:02:50  17774kN
>74.Re1 fxg2 75.Ne4 Rf5 76.Qb7 Kg8 77.Kxg2 Bxd4 78.Rd1 Bg7 79.Nd6 Rf3 80.Nxb5
>  µ  (-0.88)   Depth: 10/30   00:09:45  59913kN
>74.Ne4 Rf5 75.Qd7 Rf4 76.Ng3 Qf7 77.Qxf7 Rxf7 78.Ne4 Rf4 79.Ng5+ Kg8 80.Ne6 Re4
>81.Nxg7 Kxg7
>  ³  (-0.66)   Depth: 10/30   00:15:51  94551kN


Pepito chooses g3, but that doesn't look so hot either.
Son correctas: Ne4


    +----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
 8  |    |    |    |    |    |    |    |    |
    +----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
 7  |    |    |    |    |    | *R | *B | *K |
    +----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
 6  |    |    |    |    |    |    | *Q |    |
    +----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
 5  |    | *P |    |  Q |    |    |    |    |
    +----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
 4  |    |  P | *P |  P |    |    | *P |    |
    +----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
 3  |    |    |  N |    |    | *P |    |    |
    +----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
 2  |    |    |    |    |    |  P |  P |    |
    +----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
 1  |    |    |    |  R |    |    |  K |    |
    +----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
      a    b    c    d    e    f    g    h

 5   106    98    15762  Nc3xb5 Qg6-c2 Nb5-c3 Rf7-f8 Qd5xc4 f3xg2
 5   106   100    22393  Nc3xb5 Qg6-c2 Nb5-c3 Rf7-f8 Qd5xc4 f3xg2
 6    73   111    63716  Nc3xb5 ?? Qg6-c2 Nb5-c3 Rf7-f8 Qd5xc4 f3xg2
 6    74   116    82230  Nc3xb5 !!
 6    77   118    89189  Nc3xb5 Qg6-c2 Rd1-f1 Rf7-f5 Qd5-c6 f3xg2 Kg1xg2
 6    77   118    89223  Nc3xb5 Qg6-c2 Rd1-f1 Rf7-f5 Qd5-c6 f3xg2 Kg1xg2
 7    64   131   130526  Nc3xb5 Qg6-c2 Qd5xf7 Qc2xd1 Kg1-h2 Qd1-e2 Qf7-f5 Kh7-h8
Qf5-c8 Kh8-h7 Qc8xg4 Qe2xf2 Qg4xf3 Bg7xd4
 7    64   158   222212  Nc3xb5 Qg6-c2 Qd5xf7 Qc2xd1 Kg1-h2 Qd1-e2 Qf7-f5 Kh7-h8
Qf5-c8 Kh8-h7 Qc8xg4 Qe2xf2 Qg4xf3 Bg7xd4
 8    54   268   601343  Nc3xb5 g3 g2xf3 Rf7-f5 Qd5xc4 Rf5xf3 d5 Rf3xf2
 8    54   376   977105  Nc3xb5 g3 g2xf3 Rf7-f5 Qd5xc4 Rf5xf3 d5 Rf3xf2
 9    21   820  2591154  Nc3xb5 ?? g3 g2xf3 Rf7-f5 Qd5xc4 Rf5xf3 d5 Rf3xf2
 9     0   894  2858364  Nc3xb5 g3 g2xf3 g3xf2 Kg1xf2 Qg6-c2 Kf2-g3 Qc2-g6
Kg3-f2
 9     0  1144  3818760  Nc3xb5 g3 g2xf3 g3xf2 Kg1xf2 Qg6-c2 Kf2-g3 Qc2-g6
Kg3-f2
10     0  1395  4704757  Nc3xb5 g3 g2xf3 g3xf2 Kg1xf2 Qg6-c2 Kf2-g3 Qc2-g6
Kg3-f2
10     0  1803  6250046  Nc3xb5 g3 g2xf3 g3xf2 Kg1xf2 Qg6-c2 Kf2-g3 Qc2-g6
Kg3-f2
11     0  2211  7742916  Nc3xb5 g3 g2xf3 g3xf2 Kg1xf2 Qg6-c2 Kf2-g3 Qc2-g6
Kg3-f2
11     0  2998 10784569  Nc3xb5 g3 g2xf3 g3xf2 Kg1xf2 Qg6-c2 Kf2-g3 Qc2-g6
Kg3-f2
12   -33 20449 68075503  Nc3xb5 ?? g3 g2xf3 g3xf2 Kg1xf2 Qg6-c2 Kf2-g3 Qc2-g6
Kg3-f2
12  -117 23298 75678527  Nc3xb5 Rf7-f5 Qd5xc4 Qg6-h5 Qc4-c7 g3 Qc7xg3 Rf5-g5
Nb5-c3 Rg5xg3 f2xg3 Qh5-g4 g2xf3 Qg4xf3
12   -32 25053 81252423  g3 !!
12   -57 25392 82416266  g3 Rf7-f5 Qd5-e4 Rf5-h5 Qe4-f4 Qg6-h6 Qf4xh6 Kh7xh6
Nc3-e4 Rh5-d5 Ne4-c3 Rd5xd4 Rd1xd4 Bg7xd4 Nc3xb5





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