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Subject: Re: a simple test position that is hard for Shredder and hiarcs7.32

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 15:31:59 01/04/02

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On January 04, 2002 at 06:57:53, Uri Blass wrote:

>How much time do programs need to avoid 74.Nxb5
>Most programs need few seconds when
>Hiarcs7.32(48 Mbytes hash) needs almost 10 minutes on p800
>
>Shredder6 could not avoid Nxb5 even in 112 seconds
>based on the pgn of it's games against tiger aggresive.
>
>Shredder 6 - Gambit Tiger 2.0
>[D]8/5rbk/6q1/1p1Q4/1PpP2p1/2N2p2/5PP1/3R2K1 w - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Hiarcs 7.32:
>
>74.Nxb5 fxg2 75.Kxg2
>  +-  (1.60)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
>74.Nxb5 fxg2
>  ±  (1.23)   Depth: 2/10   00:00:00
>74.Nxb5 fxg2 75.Qxg2
>  ±  (0.76)   Depth: 2/10   00:00:00
>74.Nxb5 fxg2
>  ±  (1.01)   Depth: 3/13   00:00:00
>74.Nxb5 fxg2
>  ±  (1.01)   Depth: 3/14   00:00:00
>74.Nxb5 fxg2 75.Qxc4 Qf5 76.Rd2
>  ±  (1.07)   Depth: 4/14   00:00:00
>74.Nxb5 fxg2
>  ±  (0.81)   Depth: 5/16   00:00:00  8kN
>74.Nxb5 fxg2
>  ±  (0.81)   Depth: 5/19   00:00:00  15kN
>74.Nxb5 Rf5
>  ²  (0.56)   Depth: 6/21   00:00:00  74kN
>74.Nxb5 Rf5 75.Qd7 Rh5 76.Nd6
>  =  (-0.01)   Depth: 6/23   00:00:01  100kN
>74.Nxb5 Rf5
>  ³  (-0.26)   Depth: 7/23   00:00:02  222kN
>74.Nxb5 Rf5 75.Qxc4 Qh5 76.Qc2 g3 77.gxf3 Qh2+
>  ³  (-0.38)   Depth: 7/25   00:00:02  279kN
>74.Nxb5 Rf5
>  ³  (-0.63)   Depth: 8/25   00:00:06  686kN
>74.Nxb5 Rf5
>  ³  (-0.63)   Depth: 8/27   00:00:08  837kN
>74.Nxb5 Rf5
>  ³  (-0.38)   Depth: 9/27   00:00:39  3940kN
>74.Nxb5 Rf5 75.Qxc4 Qh5 76.Qc2 g3 77.gxf3
>  ³  (-0.38)   Depth: 9/29   00:00:43  4378kN
>74.Nxb5 Rf5
>  ³  (-0.63)   Depth: 10/29   00:01:20  8215kN
>74.Nxb5 Rf5 75.Qxc4 Qh5 76.Qc7 g3 77.Qxg3 Rg5 78.Nc3 Rxg3 79.fxg3
>  -+  (-1.59)   Depth: 10/30   00:02:50  17774kN
>74.Re1 fxg2 75.Ne4 Rf5 76.Qb7 Kg8 77.Kxg2 Bxd4 78.Rd1 Bg7 79.Nd6 Rf3 80.Nxb5
>  µ  (-0.88)   Depth: 10/30   00:09:45  59913kN
>74.Ne4 Rf5 75.Qd7 Rf4 76.Ng3 Qf7 77.Qxf7 Rxf7 78.Ne4 Rf4 79.Ng5+ Kg8 80.Ne6 Re4
>81.Nxg7 Kxg7
>  ³  (-0.66)   Depth: 10/30   00:15:51  94551kN

Crafty gets off the dime in a hurry, but can't seem to find anything a lot
better.

White(1): epdpfga \ne4.epd ne4.out
PFGA: EPD record: 1
middle-game phase
              clearing hash tables
              time surplus   0.00  time limit 16:39 (16:39)
         nss  depth   time  score   variation (1)
                6     0.39   0.43   1. Nxb5 fxg2 2. Qxg2 Rf3 3. Qh2+ Rh3
                                    4. Qf4 Rb3 5. Nd6 Rxb4
                6->   0.53   0.43   1. Nxb5 fxg2 2. Qxg2 Rf3 3. Qh2+ Rh3
                                    4. Qf4 Rb3 5. Nd6 Rxb4
                7     0.95   0.52   1. Nxb5 fxg2 2. Qxc4 Qf5 3. Qd3 Qxd3
                                    4. Rxd3 Rb7 5. Nd6 Rxb4
                7->   1.14   0.52   1. Nxb5 fxg2 2. Qxc4 Qf5 3. Qd3 Qxd3
                                    4. Rxd3 Rb7 5. Nd6 Rxb4
                8     1.85     --   1. Nxb5
                8     2.82  -0.67   1. Nxb5 g3 2. gxf3 Rf5 3. Qxc4 Rxf3
                                    4. Qf1 Rxf2
                8->   5.80  -0.67   1. Nxb5 g3 2. gxf3 Rf5 3. Qxc4 Rxf3
                                    4. Qf1 Rxf2
                9     7.21  -0.89   1. Nxb5 g3 2. gxf3 Rf5 3. Qb7 Qh5 4.
                                    fxg3 Rxb5 5. Qe4+ Rf5
                9    21.24  -0.63   1. g3 Rf5 2. Qd7 Qh5 3. Re1 Rg5 4.
                                    d5 Kg8 5. Re8+ Kh7
                9->  21.35  -0.63   1. g3 Rf5 2. Qd7 Qh5 3. Re1 Rg5 4.
                                    d5 Kg8 5. Re8+ Kh7
               10    22.15     --   1. g3
               10    22.55  -1.06   1. g3 Rf5 2. Qe4 Rh5 3. Re1 Qxe4 4.
                                    Rxe4 Bf8 5. Na2 Rg5 6. Kf1
               10    50.91  -1.05   1. Re1 fxg2 2. Kxg2 Qf6 3. Rh1+ Kg8
                                    4. Rf1 Qf5 5. Qxf5 Rxf5 6. Rd1 Kf7
                                    7. Rd2 Rh5
               10->   1:30  -1.05   1. Re1 fxg2 2. Kxg2 Qf6 3. Rh1+ Kg8
                                    4. Rf1 Qf5 5. Qxf5 Rxf5 6. Rd1 Kf7
                                    7. Rd2 Rh5
               11     1:53  -1.05   1. Re1 fxg2 2. Kxg2 Qf6 3. Rh1+ Kg8
                                    4. Rf1 Qf5 5. Qxf5 Rxf5 6. Rd1 Kf7
                                    7. Kg1 Rh5 8. Kg2
               11->   2:39  -1.05   1. Re1 fxg2 2. Kxg2 Qf6 3. Rh1+ Kg8
                                    4. Rf1 Qf5 5. Qxf5 Rxf5 6. Rd1 Kf7
                                    7. Kg1 Rh5 8. Kg2
               12     5:30  -0.99   1. Re1 Rf5 2. Qe4 Qh5 3. Re3 Kh8 4.
                                    Qe8+ Qxe8 5. Rxe8+ Kh7 6. Re7 Kh6 7.
                                    Re4 Kg5
               12->   6:29  -0.99   1. Re1 Rf5 2. Qe4 Qh5 3. Re3 Kh8 4.
                                    Qe8+ Qxe8 5. Rxe8+ Kh7 6. Re7 Kh6 7.
                                    Re4 Kg5



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