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Subject: Re: Mate in 14 problem

Author: John Merlino

Date: 12:12:51 01/05/02

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On January 05, 2002 at 10:01:24, Dieter Buerssner wrote:

>On January 05, 2002 at 06:52:23, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>I give an analysis of yace that is probably going to see
>>the mate score at depth 16
>>
>>How much time do programs need to find the mate?
>>
>>
>>New position
>>2R5/8/8/8/1B6/6K1/p1p1p1p1/6kb b - - 0 1
>>
>>Analysis by Yace 0.99.56:
>>
>>1...e1Q+ 2.Bxe1 a1Q
>>  -+  (-7.61)   Depth: 1   00:00:04
>>1...a1Q
>>  -+  (-9.08)   Depth: 1   00:00:04
>
>I think, Yace is not so good at mates, where the position already looks won,
>because it limits its extension here (or better, doesn't do most extensions at
>all). Also, I think it is not important for practical playing strength, because
>with a score of +9.x chess programs will usually win (studies might be an
>exception).
>
>Another example, where no large advantage can be found at shallow depth:
>
>[D] 6r1/2rp1kpp/2qQp3/p3Pp1P/1pP2P2/1P2KP2/P5R1/6R1 w - -
>
>Regards,
>Dieter

One second for CM8000:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	2/5	0.77	24231		1. Qd4 a4 2. Kf2 Qc5 3. Qxc5 Rxc5
0:01	2/6	Mate15	121807		1. Rxg7+ Rxg7 2. Rxg7+ Kxg7 3.
					Qe7+ Kg8 4. Qe8+ Kg7 5. h6+ Kxh6
					6. Qf8+ Kh5 7. Qf7+ Kh4 8. Qxh7+
					Kg3 9. Qg7+ Kh4 10. Qg5+ Kh3 11.
					Kf2 Qb6+ 12. Kf1 Qg1+ 13. Qxg1
					Rc8 14. Qg2+ Kh4 15. Qh2#
0:01	3/7	Mate15	218363		1. Rxg7+ Rxg7 2. Rxg7+ Kxg7 3.
					Qe7+ Kg8 4. Qe8+ Kg7 5. h6+ Kxh6
					6. Qf8+ Kh5 7. Qf7+ Kh4 8. Qxh7+
					Kg3 9. Qg7+ Kh4 10. Qg5+ Kh3 11.
					Kf2 Qb6+ 12. Kf1 Qg1+ 13. Qxg1
					Rc8 14. Qg2+ Kh4 15. Qh2#
0:04	3/8	Mate15	532298		1. Rxg7+ Rxg7 2. Rxg7+ Kxg7 3.
					Qe7+ Kg8 4. Qe8+ Kg7 5. h6+ Kxh6
					6. Qf8+ Kh5 7. Qf7+ Kh4 8. Qxh7+
					Kg3 9. Qg7+ Kh4 10. Qg5+ Kh3 11.
					Kf2 Qb6+ 12. Kf1 Qg1+ 13. Qxg1
					Rc8 14. Qg2+ Kh4 15. Qh2#

jm



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