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Subject: Re: Shredder 6_Dual v Fritz 7a Brilliant game, take a look

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 04:55:12 01/06/02

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On January 05, 2002 at 23:47:31, Jonas Cohonas wrote:

>At the moment Shredder 6_ Dual is leading 5.0-2.0 with no losses so far, this
>is game 7 which i found to be especially good!
>Check out the difference in evals in the beginning of the game.
>
>[Event "Dual_Shredder6-1"]
>[Site "Dual MP 1600+"]
>[Date "2002.01.06"]
>[Round "7.1"]
>[White "Shredder 6"]
>[Black "Fritz 7"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "D16"]
>[PlyCount "94"]
>[EventDate "2002.01.05"]
>
>1. d4 {0} 1... d5 {0} 2. Nf3 {0} 2... Nf6 {0} 3. c4 {0} 3... c6 {0} 4. Nc3 {0}
>4... dxc4 {0} 5. a4 {0} 5... Nbd7 {0} 6. e4 {0.61/14 93} 6... Qa5 {0.25/13 82}
>7. Bd2 {0.83/13 45} 7... e5 {(e6) 0.03/13 53} 8. Bxc4 {0.57/13 105} 8... exd4 {
>(Bb4) 0.00/13 102} 9. Bxf7+ {1.71/12 70} 9... Kxf7 {0.00/13 55} 10. Ng5+ {
>1.69/12 148} 10... Kg6 {(Qxg5) 0.00/14 268} 11. Nd5 {2.02/12 147} 11... Qc5 {
>(Qxd2+) 0.00/12 73} 12. Nf4+ {(h4) 2.29/11 53} 12... Kxg5 {-0.10/12 96} 13. h4+
>{2.33/11 116} 13... Kh6 {-0.22/9 1} 14. g4 {2.33/11 112} 14... g5 {1.15/12 49}
>15. hxg5+ {2.09/10 14} 15... Kxg5 {1.31/12 58} 16. Qf3 {2.77/11 60} 16... Rg8 {
>0.90/11 71} 17. b4 {(Ne6+) 2.82/10 213} 17... Qe5 {(Nxg4) 0.00/12 68} 18. O-O-O
>{(Rh5+) 4.21/10 40}

I suspect a big catling bug by Fritz7

Fritz7a did not expect 18.0-0-0 and had evaluation of 0.00

Can Fritz7a find 18.0-0-0 in it's main line at move 17 after enough time

Not that black has no good alternative to 17...Qe5

Here is yace analysis after learning that 17...Qe5 is bad
and Deep Fritz anaysis on p800(48 mbytes hash) when it has no problem to expect
0-0-0 and see that white has a big advanatge after 17...Qe5
The problem was clearly before 17...Qe5 but it is possible that the castling bug
prevented Deep Fritz to play better in previous moves

Shredder 6_Dual - Fritz 7a
[D]r1b2br1/pp1n3p/2p2n2/2q3k1/PP1pPNP1/5Q2/3B1P2/R3K2R b KQ b3 0 1

Analysis by Yace 0.99.56:

17...Qxb4 18.Bxb4 Bxb4+ 19.Kd1
  µ  (-0.88)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
17...Qc2
  -+  (-5.38)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
17...Qc2
  -+  (-5.38)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
17...Ne5
  -+  (-5.44)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
17...Ne5 18.Nd3+ Kg6 19.Qxf6+ Kxf6 20.Nxc5
  -+  (-4.99)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
17...Ne5 18.Nd5+ Kg6 19.Qxf6#
  -+  (-1.56)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
17...Ne5 18.Nd5+ Kg6
  +-  (#2)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
17...Qc2 18.Rh5+ Nxh5 19.Nxh5+ Qxd2+
  ²  (0.37)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
17...Qc2 18.Nd5+ Kg6
  -+  (-4.95)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
17...Qc2 18.Rh5+ Nxh5 19.Nxh5+ Qxd2+ 20.Kxd2 Bxb4+ 21.Kd3
  -+  (-3.15)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
17...Qd6 18.0-0-0
  -+  (-3.16)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
17...Qd6 18.Ne6+ Kg6 19.Qf5+ Kf7 20.Rxh7+ Ke8
  -+  (-4.47)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
17...Qd6 18.0-0-0 Rg6 19.Nxg6+ Qf4
  -+  (-4.07)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
17...Qd6 18.0-0-0 Nc5 19.Ne6+ Kg6 20.Nxc5 Nxe4
  -+  (-3.03)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
17...Qd6 18.0-0-0 b6 19.Rh5+ Nxh5 20.Nxh5+ Kh4 21.Rh1+ Qh2 22.Rxh2#
  +-  (2.00)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
17...Qd6 18.0-0-0 Qxf4 19.Bxf4+ Kg6 20.g5
  +-  (3.05)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
17...Qc2 18.Ng2+ Kg6 19.Nh4+ Kf7 20.Qc3
  +-  (3.03)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
17...Qc2 18.Rh5+ Nxh5 19.Nxh5+ Qxd2+ 20.Kxd2 Bxb4+ 21.Ke2 Ne5
  -+  (-3.43)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
17...Qc2 18.Nd3+ Kg6 19.g5 Kg7 20.gxf6+ Nxf6
  -+  (-3.12)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  175kN
17...Qc2 18.Rh5+ Nxh5 19.Ne6+ Kh4 20.Qh1+ Kxg4 21.Qg2+ Kh4 22.Qh1+ Kg4
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  225kN
17...Qc2 18.Rh5+ Nxh5 19.Ne6+ Kh4 20.Qh1+ Kxg4 21.Qg2+ Kh4 22.Qh1+ Kg4 23.Qg2+
Kh4 24.Qh1+ Kg4
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 6   00:00:01  310kN
17...Qc2 18.Rh5+ Nxh5 19.Ne6+ Kh4 20.Qh1+ Kxg4 21.Qg2+ Kh4 22.Bg5+ Rxg5 23.Qxg5+
Kh3 24.Nf4+ Nxf4 25.Qg3#
  +-  (#8)   Depth: 7   00:00:02  690kN
17...Qxb4 18.Rh5+ Nxh5 19.Ne6+ Kh4 20.Qh1+ Kxg4 21.Qg2+ Kh4 22.Nxd4 Rxg2 23.Nf5+
Kh3 24.Ra3+ Qxa3 25.Bh6
  +-  (#9)   Depth: 7   00:00:10  5056kN
17...Qxb4 18.Nd3+ Qxd2+ 19.Kxd2 h5 20.Qf5+ Kh6 21.e5 Kg7 22.exf6+ Nxf6 23.Qg5+
Kf7 24.Ne5+ Ke7
  ±  (1.29)   Depth: 7   00:00:20  8721kN
17...Qxb4 18.Nd3+ Qxd2+ 19.Kxd2 h5 20.Rag1 Kg6 21.g5 Kf7 22.gxf6 Bh6+ 23.Ke1
Rxg1+ 24.Rxg1 Nxf6
  +-  (1.43)   Depth: 8   00:00:38  15593kN
17...Qxb4 18.Nd3+ Qxd2+ 19.Kxd2 h5 20.Rag1 Kg6 21.g5 Nxe4+ 22.Qxe4+ Kf7 23.Rxh5
Rg7
  +-  (1.83)   Depth: 9   00:00:42  16930kN
17...Qxb4 18.Nd3+ Qxd2+ 19.Kxd2 h5 20.Rag1 Kh6 21.e5 Be7 22.Qf4+ Kh7 23.exf6
Nxf6
  +-  (2.27)   Depth: 9   00:01:44  43083kN
17...Qxb4 18.Nd3+ Qxd2+ 19.Kxd2 h5 20.Qf5+ Kh6 21.Ne5 Bb4+ 22.Kd1 Kg7 23.g5 Kf8
24.Nxd7+ Kg7 25.gxf6+ Kh8
  +-  (2.67)   Depth: 10   00:02:30  56385kN
17...Qxb4 18.Nd3+ Qxd2+ 19.Kxd2 h5 20.Qf5+ Kh6 21.Ne5 Bb4+ 22.Kc1 Rxg4 23.Nxg4+
Kg7 24.Nxf6 Nxf6 25.Rg1+ Kf7
  +-  (2.94)   Depth: 10   00:06:06  144098kN

(Blass, Tel-aviv 06.01.2002)

Shredder 6_Dual - Fritz 7a
r1b2br1/pp1n3p/2p2n2/2q3k1/PP1pPNP1/5Q2/3B1P2/R3K2R b KQ b3 0 1

Analysis by Deep Fritz:

17...Nxe4--
  -+  (-2.69)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
17...Nxe4-- 18.Ne6+ Kg6
  +-  (5.84)   Depth: 1/15   00:00:00
17...Qxb4!
  +-  (5.81)   Depth: 1/15   00:00:00
17...Qxb4! 18.Ne6+ Kg6
  ³  (-0.44)   Depth: 1/15   00:00:00
17...Qe7!
  µ  (-1.03)   Depth: 1/15   00:00:00
17...Qe7!
  -+  (-5.31)   Depth: 1/15   00:00:00
17...Qe7--
  -+  (-2.47)   Depth: 2/8   00:00:00
17...Qe7-- 18.Nd5+ Kg6 19.Nxe7+ Bxe7
  ²  (0.34)   Depth: 2/8   00:00:00
17...Qc4!
  µ  (-0.94)   Depth: 2/8   00:00:00
17...Qc4! 18.Rc1
  -+  (-5.22)   Depth: 2/9   00:00:00  1kN
17...Qc4--
  -+  (-4.88)   Depth: 3/18   00:00:00  2kN
17...Qc4-- 18.e5 Bxb4 19.exf6
  -+  (-4.25)   Depth: 3/18   00:00:00  4kN
17...Qc2!
  -+  (-4.28)   Depth: 3/18   00:00:00  5kN
17...Qc2! 18.Ne6+ Kg6 19.Qf5+ Kf7
  -+  (-5.19)   Depth: 3/18   00:00:00  6kN
17...Qc2--
  -+  (-4.78)   Depth: 4/14   00:00:00  7kN
17...Qc2-- 18.Rh5+ Nxh5 19.Nxh5+ Qxd2+ 20.Kxd2
  -+  (-2.56)   Depth: 4/20   00:00:00  11kN
17...Qc2 18.Rh5+ Nxh5 19.Nxh5+ Qxd2+ 20.Kxd2 Bxb4+ 21.Kd1
  -+  (-2.56)   Depth: 5/23   00:00:00  29kN
17...Qc2 18.Rh5+ Nxh5 19.Nxh5+ Qxd2+ 20.Kxd2 Bxb4+ 21.Kd1
  -+  (-2.56)   Depth: 6/24   00:00:00  65kN
17...Qc2 18.Rh5+ Nxh5 19.Nxh5+ Qxd2+ 20.Kxd2 Bxb4+ 21.Kd1 Rd8
  -+  (-2.78)   Depth: 7/30   00:00:00  181kN
17...Qc2--
  -+  (-2.31)   Depth: 8/24   00:00:00  230kN
17...Qc2-- 18.Rh5+ Nxh5 19.Ne6+ Kh4 20.Qh1+ Kxg4 21.Qg1+ Kh4
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 8/34   00:00:01  807kN
17...Qc2 18.Rh5+ Nxh5 19.Ne6+ Kh4 20.Qh1+ Kxg4 21.Qg1+ Kh4 22.Qh1+ Kg4 23.Qg1+
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 9/33   00:00:03  2086kN
17...Qc2 18.Rh5+ Nxh5 19.Ne6+ Kh4 20.Qh1+ Kxg4 21.Qg1+ Kh4 22.Qh1+ Kg4 23.Qg1+
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 10/34   00:00:06  4614kN
17...Qc2--
  +-  (#10)   Depth: 11/33   00:00:09  6278kN
17...Qc2-- 18.Rh5+ Nxh5 19.Ne6+ Kh4 20.Qh1+ Kxg4 21.Qg2+ Kh4 22.Bg5+ Rxg5
23.Qxg5+
  +-  (#8)   Depth: 11/33   00:00:12  8865kN
17...Qd6!
  +-  (#9)   Depth: 11/36   00:00:24  18632kN
17...Bd6!
  +-  (28.47)   Depth: 11/38   00:00:32  26457kN
17...Bd6! 18.bxc5 Bxf4 19.Qxf4+ Kg6 20.g5 Rh8 21.gxf6 Kf7 22.e5 Nxc5 23.Qxd4
  +-  (6.97)   Depth: 11/40   00:00:53  40317kN
17...Qe5!
  +-  (6.94)   Depth: 11/40   00:01:03  47705kN
17...Qe5! 18.0-0-0 h6 19.Qg3 Qxf4 20.Qxf4+ Kg6 21.e5 Nxe5 22.Qxe5 Bxg4
  ±  (1.31)   Depth: 11/40   00:02:03  88978kN
17...Qe5 18.0-0-0 h6 19.Qg3 Qxf4 20.Bxf4+ Kg6 21.e5 Nd5 22.e6 Nxf4
  +-  (1.50)   Depth: 12/36   00:02:49  122082kN

(Blass, Tel-aviv 06.01.2002)

Uri



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