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Subject: Re: Shredder 6_Dual v Fritz 7a Brilliant game, take a look

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 05:39:32 01/06/02

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On January 06, 2002 at 08:26:12, Sune Larsson wrote:

>On January 06, 2002 at 07:55:12, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On January 05, 2002 at 23:47:31, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>
>>>At the moment Shredder 6_ Dual is leading 5.0-2.0 with no losses so far, this
>>>is game 7 which i found to be especially good!
>>>Check out the difference in evals in the beginning of the game.
>>>
>>>[Event "Dual_Shredder6-1"]
>>>[Site "Dual MP 1600+"]
>>>[Date "2002.01.06"]
>>>[Round "7.1"]
>>>[White "Shredder 6"]
>>>[Black "Fritz 7"]
>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>[ECO "D16"]
>>>[PlyCount "94"]
>>>[EventDate "2002.01.05"]
>>>
>>>1. d4 {0} 1... d5 {0} 2. Nf3 {0} 2... Nf6 {0} 3. c4 {0} 3... c6 {0} 4. Nc3 {0}
>>>4... dxc4 {0} 5. a4 {0} 5... Nbd7 {0} 6. e4 {0.61/14 93} 6... Qa5 {0.25/13 82}
>>>7. Bd2 {0.83/13 45} 7... e5 {(e6) 0.03/13 53} 8. Bxc4 {0.57/13 105} 8... exd4 {
>>>(Bb4) 0.00/13 102} 9. Bxf7+ {1.71/12 70} 9... Kxf7 {0.00/13 55} 10. Ng5+ {
>>>1.69/12 148} 10... Kg6 {(Qxg5) 0.00/14 268} 11. Nd5 {2.02/12 147} 11... Qc5 {
>>>(Qxd2+) 0.00/12 73} 12. Nf4+ {(h4) 2.29/11 53} 12... Kxg5 {-0.10/12 96} 13. h4+
>>>{2.33/11 116} 13... Kh6 {-0.22/9 1} 14. g4 {2.33/11 112} 14... g5 {1.15/12 49}
>>>15. hxg5+ {2.09/10 14} 15... Kxg5 {1.31/12 58} 16. Qf3 {2.77/11 60} 16... Rg8 {
>>>0.90/11 71} 17. b4 {(Ne6+) 2.82/10 213} 17... Qe5 {(Nxg4) 0.00/12 68} 18. O-O-O
>>>{(Rh5+) 4.21/10 40}
>>
>>I suspect a big catling bug by Fritz7
>
>
>  I think you are correct since many people have reported that
>  Fritz 7/7a has a severe castling bug. Buggy products, a bad winboard
>  adapter and now even buggy engines from ChessBase. Looks like they
>  just throw the stuff out on the market on fixed times - no matter
>  if the product is ready or not... And just you try to get support or
>  an answer from your complaints...The respect from Chessbase shown to
>  their customers is close to zero.
 If you are thinking of buying their
>  products be aware of what you are facing.

I disagree here.
Chessbase is a good company and there is a simple way to know when their product
is ready if you are interested only in buying an engine with no significant
bugs.

Their product is ready when the ssdf test it.
Chessbase did not give the ssdf to test Fritz7a.

Uri



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