Author: Uri Blass
Date: 05:45:30 01/06/02
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On January 06, 2002 at 08:37:31, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>On January 06, 2002 at 08:26:12, Sune Larsson wrote:
>
>>On January 06, 2002 at 07:55:12, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On January 05, 2002 at 23:47:31, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>>
>>>>At the moment Shredder 6_ Dual is leading 5.0-2.0 with no losses so far, this
>>>>is game 7 which i found to be especially good!
>>>>Check out the difference in evals in the beginning of the game.
>>>>
>>>>[Event "Dual_Shredder6-1"]
>>>>[Site "Dual MP 1600+"]
>>>>[Date "2002.01.06"]
>>>>[Round "7.1"]
>>>>[White "Shredder 6"]
>>>>[Black "Fritz 7"]
>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>[ECO "D16"]
>>>>[PlyCount "94"]
>>>>[EventDate "2002.01.05"]
>>>>
>>>>1. d4 {0} 1... d5 {0} 2. Nf3 {0} 2... Nf6 {0} 3. c4 {0} 3... c6 {0} 4. Nc3 {0}
>>>>4... dxc4 {0} 5. a4 {0} 5... Nbd7 {0} 6. e4 {0.61/14 93} 6... Qa5 {0.25/13 82}
>>>>7. Bd2 {0.83/13 45} 7... e5 {(e6) 0.03/13 53} 8. Bxc4 {0.57/13 105} 8... exd4 {
>>>>(Bb4) 0.00/13 102} 9. Bxf7+ {1.71/12 70} 9... Kxf7 {0.00/13 55} 10. Ng5+ {
>>>>1.69/12 148} 10... Kg6 {(Qxg5) 0.00/14 268} 11. Nd5 {2.02/12 147} 11... Qc5 {
>>>>(Qxd2+) 0.00/12 73} 12. Nf4+ {(h4) 2.29/11 53} 12... Kxg5 {-0.10/12 96} 13. h4+
>>>>{2.33/11 116} 13... Kh6 {-0.22/9 1} 14. g4 {2.33/11 112} 14... g5 {1.15/12 49}
>>>>15. hxg5+ {2.09/10 14} 15... Kxg5 {1.31/12 58} 16. Qf3 {2.77/11 60} 16... Rg8 {
>>>>0.90/11 71} 17. b4 {(Ne6+) 2.82/10 213} 17... Qe5 {(Nxg4) 0.00/12 68} 18. O-O-O
>>>>{(Rh5+) 4.21/10 40}
>>>
>>>I suspect a big catling bug by Fritz7
>>
>>
>> I think you are correct since many people have reported that
>> Fritz 7/7a has a severe castling bug. Buggy products, a bad winboard
>> adapter and now even buggy engines from ChessBase. Looks like they
>> just throw the stuff out on the market on fixed times - no matter
>> if the product is ready or not... And just you try to get support or
>> an answer from your complaints...The respect from Chessbase shown to
>> their customers is close to zero. If you are thinking of buying their
>> products be aware of what you are facing. There are a lot of alternatives.
>> For databasing Chess Assistent and the excellent free SCID. About support -
>> just compare ChessBase with the respones from Rebel/Ed Schröder,
>> Chess Tiger/Christophe Theron and Chessmaster/John Merlino.
>>
>> Sune
>
>I think this game was lost for Fritz 7a long before the casteling bug was even
>an issue, not that it makes the bug look any prettier...
>
>Regards
>Jonas
The problem is that we cannot know what was the evaluation without the castling
bug and the problem is that the castling bug may be responsible to some moves
like 8..exd4(I do not think that 18.0-0-0 was relevant at this case but it is
pssible that not considering 13.0-0-0 in another line that was not in the game
was relevant to the evaluation)
We cannot know without a version without the castling bug.
Uri
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