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Subject: Re: Shredder 6_Dual v Fritz 7a Brilliant game, take a look

Author: Ian Aston

Date: 05:59:48 01/06/02

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On January 06, 2002 at 08:39:32, Uri Blass wrote:

>On January 06, 2002 at 08:26:12, Sune Larsson wrote:
>
>>On January 06, 2002 at 07:55:12, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On January 05, 2002 at 23:47:31, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>>
>>>>At the moment Shredder 6_ Dual is leading 5.0-2.0 with no losses so far, this
>>>>is game 7 which i found to be especially good!
>>>>Check out the difference in evals in the beginning of the game.
>>>>
>>>>[Event "Dual_Shredder6-1"]
>>>>[Site "Dual MP 1600+"]
>>>>[Date "2002.01.06"]
>>>>[Round "7.1"]
>>>>[White "Shredder 6"]
>>>>[Black "Fritz 7"]
>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>[ECO "D16"]
>>>>[PlyCount "94"]
>>>>[EventDate "2002.01.05"]
>>>>
>>>>1. d4 {0} 1... d5 {0} 2. Nf3 {0} 2... Nf6 {0} 3. c4 {0} 3... c6 {0} 4. Nc3 {0}
>>>>4... dxc4 {0} 5. a4 {0} 5... Nbd7 {0} 6. e4 {0.61/14 93} 6... Qa5 {0.25/13 82}
>>>>7. Bd2 {0.83/13 45} 7... e5 {(e6) 0.03/13 53} 8. Bxc4 {0.57/13 105} 8... exd4 {
>>>>(Bb4) 0.00/13 102} 9. Bxf7+ {1.71/12 70} 9... Kxf7 {0.00/13 55} 10. Ng5+ {
>>>>1.69/12 148} 10... Kg6 {(Qxg5) 0.00/14 268} 11. Nd5 {2.02/12 147} 11... Qc5 {
>>>>(Qxd2+) 0.00/12 73} 12. Nf4+ {(h4) 2.29/11 53} 12... Kxg5 {-0.10/12 96} 13. h4+
>>>>{2.33/11 116} 13... Kh6 {-0.22/9 1} 14. g4 {2.33/11 112} 14... g5 {1.15/12 49}
>>>>15. hxg5+ {2.09/10 14} 15... Kxg5 {1.31/12 58} 16. Qf3 {2.77/11 60} 16... Rg8 {
>>>>0.90/11 71} 17. b4 {(Ne6+) 2.82/10 213} 17... Qe5 {(Nxg4) 0.00/12 68} 18. O-O-O
>>>>{(Rh5+) 4.21/10 40}
>>>
>>>I suspect a big catling bug by Fritz7
>>
>>
>>  I think you are correct since many people have reported that
>>  Fritz 7/7a has a severe castling bug. Buggy products, a bad winboard
>>  adapter and now even buggy engines from ChessBase. Looks like they
>>  just throw the stuff out on the market on fixed times - no matter
>>  if the product is ready or not... And just you try to get support or
>>  an answer from your complaints...The respect from Chessbase shown to
>>  their customers is close to zero.
> If you are thinking of buying their
>>  products be aware of what you are facing.
>
>I disagree here.
>Chessbase is a good company and there is a simple way to know when their product
>is ready if you are interested only in buying an engine with no significant
>bugs.
>
>Their product is ready when the ssdf test it.
>Chessbase did not give the ssdf to test Fritz7a.
>
>Uri

The statement that ChessBase is a good company and the rest of your post are
contradictions. I find the idea that their products, which are already on sale,
are not ready until they are given to the SSDF for testing bizarre, to say the
least. I have seen the following question asked, a few times, but have never
seen a satisfactory answer. How do you get an update, which fixes serious bugs,
for ChessBase products if you don't have an internet connection?

Regards

Ian



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