Author: Uri Blass
Date: 06:13:53 01/06/02
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On January 06, 2002 at 08:59:48, Ian Aston wrote:
>On January 06, 2002 at 08:39:32, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On January 06, 2002 at 08:26:12, Sune Larsson wrote:
>>
>>>On January 06, 2002 at 07:55:12, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 05, 2002 at 23:47:31, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>At the moment Shredder 6_ Dual is leading 5.0-2.0 with no losses so far, this
>>>>>is game 7 which i found to be especially good!
>>>>>Check out the difference in evals in the beginning of the game.
>>>>>
>>>>>[Event "Dual_Shredder6-1"]
>>>>>[Site "Dual MP 1600+"]
>>>>>[Date "2002.01.06"]
>>>>>[Round "7.1"]
>>>>>[White "Shredder 6"]
>>>>>[Black "Fritz 7"]
>>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>>[ECO "D16"]
>>>>>[PlyCount "94"]
>>>>>[EventDate "2002.01.05"]
>>>>>
>>>>>1. d4 {0} 1... d5 {0} 2. Nf3 {0} 2... Nf6 {0} 3. c4 {0} 3... c6 {0} 4. Nc3 {0}
>>>>>4... dxc4 {0} 5. a4 {0} 5... Nbd7 {0} 6. e4 {0.61/14 93} 6... Qa5 {0.25/13 82}
>>>>>7. Bd2 {0.83/13 45} 7... e5 {(e6) 0.03/13 53} 8. Bxc4 {0.57/13 105} 8... exd4 {
>>>>>(Bb4) 0.00/13 102} 9. Bxf7+ {1.71/12 70} 9... Kxf7 {0.00/13 55} 10. Ng5+ {
>>>>>1.69/12 148} 10... Kg6 {(Qxg5) 0.00/14 268} 11. Nd5 {2.02/12 147} 11... Qc5 {
>>>>>(Qxd2+) 0.00/12 73} 12. Nf4+ {(h4) 2.29/11 53} 12... Kxg5 {-0.10/12 96} 13. h4+
>>>>>{2.33/11 116} 13... Kh6 {-0.22/9 1} 14. g4 {2.33/11 112} 14... g5 {1.15/12 49}
>>>>>15. hxg5+ {2.09/10 14} 15... Kxg5 {1.31/12 58} 16. Qf3 {2.77/11 60} 16... Rg8 {
>>>>>0.90/11 71} 17. b4 {(Ne6+) 2.82/10 213} 17... Qe5 {(Nxg4) 0.00/12 68} 18. O-O-O
>>>>>{(Rh5+) 4.21/10 40}
>>>>
>>>>I suspect a big catling bug by Fritz7
>>>
>>>
>>> I think you are correct since many people have reported that
>>> Fritz 7/7a has a severe castling bug. Buggy products, a bad winboard
>>> adapter and now even buggy engines from ChessBase. Looks like they
>>> just throw the stuff out on the market on fixed times - no matter
>>> if the product is ready or not... And just you try to get support or
>>> an answer from your complaints...The respect from Chessbase shown to
>>> their customers is close to zero.
>> If you are thinking of buying their
>>> products be aware of what you are facing.
>>
>>I disagree here.
>>Chessbase is a good company and there is a simple way to know when their product
>>is ready if you are interested only in buying an engine with no significant
>>bugs.
>>
>>Their product is ready when the ssdf test it.
>>Chessbase did not give the ssdf to test Fritz7a.
>>
>>Uri
>
>The statement that ChessBase is a good company and the rest of your post are
>contradictions. I find the idea that their products, which are already on sale,
>are not ready until they are given to the SSDF for testing bizarre, to say the
>least. I have seen the following question asked, a few times, but have never
>seen a satisfactory answer. How do you get an update, which fixes serious bugs,
>for ChessBase products if you don't have an internet connection?
>
>Regards
>
>Ian
1)It is not a problem for the customers who discuss in this board because they
could not discuss here without internet connection.
2)experience from the past says that the new Fritz that is tested by the ssdf
always go to the first place inspite of bugs(Fritz versions also had tablebases
bug that did not prevent them to get the first place in the ssdf list).
Fritz5,Fritz6a,Deep Fritz were first in the ssdf in the first list that they
appeared and the next is probably going to be Fritz7b.
The only engine that I am not sure about because I do not remember is Fritz5.32.
Uri
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