Author: Sune Larsson
Date: 06:54:20 01/06/02
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On January 06, 2002 at 08:39:32, Uri Blass wrote:
>On January 06, 2002 at 08:26:12, Sune Larsson wrote:
>
>>On January 06, 2002 at 07:55:12, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On January 05, 2002 at 23:47:31, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>>
>>>>At the moment Shredder 6_ Dual is leading 5.0-2.0 with no losses so far, this
>>>>is game 7 which i found to be especially good!
>>>>Check out the difference in evals in the beginning of the game.
>>>>
>>>>[Event "Dual_Shredder6-1"]
>>>>[Site "Dual MP 1600+"]
>>>>[Date "2002.01.06"]
>>>>[Round "7.1"]
>>>>[White "Shredder 6"]
>>>>[Black "Fritz 7"]
>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>[ECO "D16"]
>>>>[PlyCount "94"]
>>>>[EventDate "2002.01.05"]
>>>>
>>>>1. d4 {0} 1... d5 {0} 2. Nf3 {0} 2... Nf6 {0} 3. c4 {0} 3... c6 {0} 4. Nc3 {0}
>>>>4... dxc4 {0} 5. a4 {0} 5... Nbd7 {0} 6. e4 {0.61/14 93} 6... Qa5 {0.25/13 82}
>>>>7. Bd2 {0.83/13 45} 7... e5 {(e6) 0.03/13 53} 8. Bxc4 {0.57/13 105} 8... exd4 {
>>>>(Bb4) 0.00/13 102} 9. Bxf7+ {1.71/12 70} 9... Kxf7 {0.00/13 55} 10. Ng5+ {
>>>>1.69/12 148} 10... Kg6 {(Qxg5) 0.00/14 268} 11. Nd5 {2.02/12 147} 11... Qc5 {
>>>>(Qxd2+) 0.00/12 73} 12. Nf4+ {(h4) 2.29/11 53} 12... Kxg5 {-0.10/12 96} 13. h4+
>>>>{2.33/11 116} 13... Kh6 {-0.22/9 1} 14. g4 {2.33/11 112} 14... g5 {1.15/12 49}
>>>>15. hxg5+ {2.09/10 14} 15... Kxg5 {1.31/12 58} 16. Qf3 {2.77/11 60} 16... Rg8 {
>>>>0.90/11 71} 17. b4 {(Ne6+) 2.82/10 213} 17... Qe5 {(Nxg4) 0.00/12 68} 18. O-O-O
>>>>{(Rh5+) 4.21/10 40}
>>>
>>>I suspect a big catling bug by Fritz7
>>
>>
>> I think you are correct since many people have reported that
>> Fritz 7/7a has a severe castling bug. Buggy products, a bad winboard
>> adapter and now even buggy engines from ChessBase. Looks like they
>> just throw the stuff out on the market on fixed times - no matter
>> if the product is ready or not... And just you try to get support or
>> an answer from your complaints...The respect from Chessbase shown to
>> their customers is close to zero.
> If you are thinking of buying their
>> products be aware of what you are facing.
>
>I disagree here.
>Chessbase is a good company
Does your disagreement spring from own experience or is it just a
blindfolded one, Uri? Some questions for you:
1) Do you have and regularly use CB 8 for databasing ?
2) Do you have and regularly use the Fritz 7 GUI ?
3) Have you tested and tried WinBoard engines under any
Fritz interface? If so, did you notice that Fritz sends a
"new" command to the engine on every move? Therebye clearing
the hash memory. Have you noticed that the Fritz WB adapter
kills the WB engines ponder function, after a short while?
4) Do you follow and read the German chess foras and the heavy
critics from a multitude dissatisfied customers?
5) Do you follow and read other English spoken chess foras, like
RGCC?
6) Have you ever tried to reach the ChessBase support with some
complaints? If yes, did you get a response? If yes the second time -
then you must be born under a lucky star, cause you just won the
monthly CB lottery.
Sune
and there is a simple way to know when their product
>is ready if you are interested only in buying an engine with no significant
>bugs.
>
>Their product is ready when the ssdf test it.
>Chessbase did not give the ssdf to test Fritz7a.
>
>Uri
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