Author: Sune Larsson
Date: 07:54:36 01/06/02
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On January 06, 2002 at 10:26:12, Uri Blass wrote:
>On January 06, 2002 at 09:54:20, Sune Larsson wrote:
>
>>On January 06, 2002 at 08:39:32, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On January 06, 2002 at 08:26:12, Sune Larsson wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 06, 2002 at 07:55:12, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 05, 2002 at 23:47:31, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>At the moment Shredder 6_ Dual is leading 5.0-2.0 with no losses so far, this
>>>>>>is game 7 which i found to be especially good!
>>>>>>Check out the difference in evals in the beginning of the game.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>[Event "Dual_Shredder6-1"]
>>>>>>[Site "Dual MP 1600+"]
>>>>>>[Date "2002.01.06"]
>>>>>>[Round "7.1"]
>>>>>>[White "Shredder 6"]
>>>>>>[Black "Fritz 7"]
>>>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>>>[ECO "D16"]
>>>>>>[PlyCount "94"]
>>>>>>[EventDate "2002.01.05"]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1. d4 {0} 1... d5 {0} 2. Nf3 {0} 2... Nf6 {0} 3. c4 {0} 3... c6 {0} 4. Nc3 {0}
>>>>>>4... dxc4 {0} 5. a4 {0} 5... Nbd7 {0} 6. e4 {0.61/14 93} 6... Qa5 {0.25/13 82}
>>>>>>7. Bd2 {0.83/13 45} 7... e5 {(e6) 0.03/13 53} 8. Bxc4 {0.57/13 105} 8... exd4 {
>>>>>>(Bb4) 0.00/13 102} 9. Bxf7+ {1.71/12 70} 9... Kxf7 {0.00/13 55} 10. Ng5+ {
>>>>>>1.69/12 148} 10... Kg6 {(Qxg5) 0.00/14 268} 11. Nd5 {2.02/12 147} 11... Qc5 {
>>>>>>(Qxd2+) 0.00/12 73} 12. Nf4+ {(h4) 2.29/11 53} 12... Kxg5 {-0.10/12 96} 13. h4+
>>>>>>{2.33/11 116} 13... Kh6 {-0.22/9 1} 14. g4 {2.33/11 112} 14... g5 {1.15/12 49}
>>>>>>15. hxg5+ {2.09/10 14} 15... Kxg5 {1.31/12 58} 16. Qf3 {2.77/11 60} 16... Rg8 {
>>>>>>0.90/11 71} 17. b4 {(Ne6+) 2.82/10 213} 17... Qe5 {(Nxg4) 0.00/12 68} 18. O-O-O
>>>>>>{(Rh5+) 4.21/10 40}
>>>>>
>>>>>I suspect a big catling bug by Fritz7
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think you are correct since many people have reported that
>>>> Fritz 7/7a has a severe castling bug. Buggy products, a bad winboard
>>>> adapter and now even buggy engines from ChessBase. Looks like they
>>>> just throw the stuff out on the market on fixed times - no matter
>>>> if the product is ready or not... And just you try to get support or
>>>> an answer from your complaints...The respect from Chessbase shown to
>>>> their customers is close to zero.
>>> If you are thinking of buying their
>>>> products be aware of what you are facing.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>I disagree here.
>>>Chessbase is a good company
>>
>>
>> Does your disagreement spring from own experience or is it just a
>> blindfolded one, Uri? Some questions for you:
>>
>> 1) Do you have and regularly use CB 8 for databasing ?
>
>no
>I have not chessbase8
>>
>> 2) Do you have and regularly use the Fritz 7 GUI ?
>
>No
>
>>
>> 3) Have you tested and tried WinBoard engines under any
>> Fritz interface?
>
>Yes
>
>> If so, did you notice that Fritz sends a
>> "new" command to the engine on every move? Therebye clearing
>> the hash memory. Have you noticed that the Fritz WB adapter
>> kills the WB engines ponder function, after a short while?
>
>I usually use winboard engines to analyze positions so pondering and the new
>commands are not important.
>
>I did not buy Fritz for the winboard engines and the possibility to use winboard
>engines was an unexpected bonus.
>>
>> 4) Do you follow and read the German chess foras and the heavy
>> critics from a multitude dissatisfied customers?
>
>No
>>
>> 5) Do you follow and read other English spoken chess foras, like
>> RGCC?
>
>No
>>
>> 6) Have you ever tried to reach the ChessBase support with some
>> complaints? If yes, did you get a response? If yes the second time -
>> then you must be born under a lucky star, cause you just won the
>> monthly CB lottery.
>>
>>
>> Sune
>
>In part of the cases I got a response.
>
>Uri
No further questions... ;-)
Sune
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