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Subject: Re: GM Christiansen's rook sac from today's US Championship. Unsound?

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 21:51:00 01/06/02

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On January 07, 2002 at 00:37:55, Richard A. Fowell wrote:

>After a brief look (2 hours @ 867 MHz, 5 billion nodes)
>MacChess thinks pretty much the same, as Tiger from 11 to 16 ply.
>The MacChess PV matches the Tiger PV for the first 13 ply.
>
>[D]r1k4r/pp1n2bp/2p1Q1p1/1q4B1/3P4/2P2N1P/PP3PP1/R5K1 w - - 2 17
>
>The MacChess continuation at 16 ply:
>
>1.  Qf7   Bf6
>2.  Bxf6  Qf5
>3.  Ne5   Nxf6
>4.    g4  Nxg4
>5.  hxg4  Qxf7
>6.  Nxf7  Rf8
>7.  Re1    h5
>8.  gxh5  gxh5
>9.  Nd6+  Kc7
>10. Ne4
>
>Log file follows.
>
>Richard A. Fowell
>
>====================================================
>05/22|00:00:00|      100901| -276| Re1 Rf8 Qe8+ Rxe8 Rxe8+ Kc7 Rxa8 Qxb2 etc.
>05/34|00:00:00|      131718| -254| Qf7 Bf6 Bxf6 Qf5 d5 Nxf6 dxc6 bxc6
>06/01|00:00:00|      181192| -254| Qf7 Bf6 Bxf6 Qf5 d5 Nxf6 dxc6 bxc6
>07/01|00:00:00|      288548| -301| Qf7 Bf6 Bxf6 Rf8 Qxh7 Qxb2 Re1 Rxf6
>07/02|00:00:01|      726355| -270| b3 Rf8 Qe7 Rg8 Qf7 Qd5 Qxd5 cxd5
>07/23|00:00:02|     1356968| -264| Re1 Qd5 Qxd5 cxd5 Bh4 Bf6 Bxf6 Nxf6 Ne5
>08/01|00:00:04|     2621714| -263| Re1 Qd5 Qxd5 cxd5 Re7 Rg8 a3 h6 Bf4
>09/01|00:00:07|     5004796| -263| Re1 Qd5 Qxd5 cxd5 Re7 Rg8 Bf4 h5 Ne5 Bf6
>10/01|00:00:14|    10011393| -263| Re1 Qd5 Qxd5 cxd5 Bf4 Rg8 Re7 h5 Be5 Bh8 b3
>11/01|00:01:06|    45879433| -244| Re1 Qd5 Qxd5 cxd5 Re7 Rg8 Bf4 h5 Ne5 Nb6 etc.
>11/02|00:01:21|    56292719| -169| Qf7 Bf6 Bxf6 Qf5 Ne5 Nxf6 g4 Qf4 Qe6+ Kc7
>Qf7+ Kd8 Qxb7
>12/01|00:02:06|    87445375| -130| Qf7 Bf6 Bxf6 Qf5 Ne5 Nxf6 g4 Nxg4 hxg4 Qxf7
>Nxf7 Rf8 Nd6+ Kc7 Ne4
>13/01|00:04:33|   189896369| -125| Qf7 Bf6 Bxf6 Qf5 Ne5 Nxf6 g4 Nxg4 hxg4 Qxf7
>Nxf7 Rf8 Re1 h5 Nd6+ Kc7
>14/01|00:12:57|   540920201| -130| Qf7 Bf6 Bxf6 Qf5 Ne5 Nxf6 g4 Nxg4 hxg4 Qxf7
>Nxf7 Rf8 Re1 h5 Ne5 Re8
>15/01|00:38:35|  1580408463| -132| Qf7 Bf6 Bxf6 Qf5 Ne5 Nxf6 g4 Nxg4 hxg4 Qxf7
>Nxf7 Rf8 Re1 h5 gxh5 gxh5 Nd6+ Kc7
>16/01|02:05:58|  5029329783| -131| Qf7 Bf6 Bxf6 Qf5 Ne5 Nxf6 g4 Nxg4 hxg4 Qxf7
>Nxf7 Rf8 Re1 h5 gxh5 gxh5 Nd6+ Kc7 Ne4

This is the exact pattern we expect to see with a really good positional move.
A steady, rapid increase in the ce with increasing depth.  This position is very
difficult and volatile.  The analysis by crafty in the other thread that I
posted showed that the players did not always follow the predicted pv, and when
they deviated the analysis showed their choice to bet better at times than the
predicted move.

I have found a good way to look ahead on positions like this is to set the time
control to 2 hrs per move, set the board to the position in question, and then
tell yace the "auto" command.  After running all night, you will get a pretty
good idea if it is sound or not.

Of course, to really know about the game, you will have to repeat this task for
every position which forms a question in your mind.  Rather time consuming.



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