Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 06:11:30 01/07/02
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On January 07, 2002 at 08:44:18, Uri Blass wrote:
>On January 07, 2002 at 05:05:31, Jouni Uski wrote:
>
>>On January 07, 2002 at 04:59:54, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>On January 07, 2002 at 04:47:50, Will Bundy wrote:
>>>>Hi
>>>>
>>>> In this position Fritz7a announces mate in 8 in 1 sec!!! I expected chessmaster
>>>>to find it in the same amount of time, didn't happen.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [D]2R2R2/5p2/p3p2p/4P1pk/7N/P5PP/5P1K/1q6 w - g6 id Fritz 7 - ; bm g3g4;
>>>
>>>I don't think you can reasonably draw any sensible conclusions from a single
>>>position. Try it on a couple hundred. If it's faster with a large set of
>>>positions, then your conclusion is likely to follow. If not, then not.
>>
>>Yes it's very difficult to say anything sure! I have tactical test set with 200
>>positions and still I cannot say sure, which program is the best in solving:
>>Fritz, Tiger or Goliath. And "toy" programs like Chessmaster I haven't even
>>tested.
>>
>>Jouni
>
>1)people need to give chessmaster high selectivity
>if they want it to solve mates fast.
>
>The question was not which program is best in
>solving tactical test suites but which program
>is best in solving mates.
>
>I also do not consider programs like Fritz for the mate
>competition because they often lie about mates
>(they can say mate in 7 when the
>shortest mate is mate in 9).
>
>I did not check the latest Fritz but
>I know that it was truth for previous Fritz versions.
>
>Tiger is also not considered for the competition for the same
>reason.
>
>There is another reason not to consider tiger and Deep Fritz
>for the competition.
>
>These programs stop to search when they see a mate and do not
>care about finding shorter mate when chessmaster yace or Crafty do not have
>this problem.
This is simply WRONG in the case of Chess Tiger.
Set it to a high fixed depth or the infinite mode, and it will keep on searching
for a shorter mate.
Christophe
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