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Subject: Re: Computer Chess is pointless

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 08:52:42 01/07/02

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On January 07, 2002 at 10:58:51, Bas Hamstra wrote:
>On January 07, 2002 at 06:36:58, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>On January 07, 2002 at 05:56:55, Bas Hamstra wrote:
>>[snip]
>>>I have seen these arguments, but they absolutely don't convince me. This kind of
>>>hurting is *nothing* compared to the hurting that is currently going on, where
>>>someone on a P3-700 has to compete with a fast quad machine in a tournament.
>>
>>In the past, there have been entrants on dedicated hardware like the Fidelity
>>and Kasparov Sparc.  Those would be eliminated (perhaps a phantom dragon, since
>>dedicated hardware has fallen out of favor).
>>
>>In the past there have been experimental entries like Hsu & Campbell's original
>>effort.  Nobody is trying the IC route anymore, so probably a phantom dragon.
>>
>>In the past, there have been MacIntosh entries.  The Mac is falling out of
>>favor, but there are still Mac programs around (including some that run *only*
>>on the Mac).
>
>>I'm just pointing out that the uniform hardware solution is not ideal in all
>>cases.
>
>I agree, there is no painless solution.
>
>>Also, for uniform hardware, someone has to cough up the expense of renting all
>>the equal hardware.  Perhaps sponsors could be arranged for that.
>>I think a problem that will appear is that those who can easily afford the
>>hottest hardware will want to maintain that purely mechanical edge.  In other
>>words, if you can easily come up with a ten thousand dollar machine to use on
>>the contest, you will want to keep the hardware specification as undefined.
>>
>>I think that uniform platform is a good idea if it can be arranged.  But I
>>think arranging it is the hard part.
>
>Sigh. I guess you're right. So we have to continue the pointless rat race.
>Personally I have learned my lesson, OR bring competitive hardware OR stay home.
>Anything else is misplaced arrogance...

Cheap solution:
Get someone with a hot box to run your program for you.
That's what many of the CCT4 participants are doing.

If your engine grows really sharp fangs, I think you could get a hardware
sponsor too.

Be that as it may, it would be very nice to see some uniform platform events.



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