Author: David Amatulli
Date: 20:55:25 01/08/02
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On January 08, 2002 at 20:03:02, J. C. Boco wrote:
>On January 08, 2002 at 17:50:33, David Amatulli wrote:
>
>>On January 07, 2002 at 18:59:54, John Pahl wrote:
>>
>>>Why play chess and cheat?
>>>I will never understand that.
>>>You see people on ICC that have got caught cheating, why?
>>>Just so you can have a high rating. Do people think if they get a high rating
>>>others will look up to them?
>>>What do these cheats do when they get a high rating and other players start
>>>asking them quistion about chess and the cheats do not answer back like you
>>>would expect a high rated player to.
>>>Would just be a waste of one's time as I see it.
>>>
>>>Just my thoughts.............
>>>
>>>
>>>JP
>>
>>Ok people on ICC who cheat are wasting their time.
>>What if though the persons goal to cheating over the board tournaments wasn't
>>rating based at all?
>>A 1400 and under section in some tournaments in America can pay up to $4000.
>>U1500 $4000, U1600 $4000, U1700 $5000 and so on.
>>If the cheaters goal was only to stay in relatively these areas and just mop up
>>the prize earnings I feel he can go a long time or possibly never get caught.
>>If his rating starts increasing to higher levels, all he has to do is invest $20
>>into a club tournament in his home town and lose all or most of his games
>>dropping his rating back down. Like sandbaggers do.
>>If I were to cheat that's how I'd do it, screw the ratings. Show me the money!
>>
>>-Dave
>
>With respect to winning the same class prize repeatedly, I believe that once you
>win a large class prize you are ineligable for future class prizes of the same
>or lower level. I guess you could milk the ClassD then ClassC etc.
>
>Now that those Palms are all over the place, you really have to start wondering
>how often they are referenced if their owner in playing in the last round and is
>in the prize money race. Perhaps players who play the Sicilian Dragon should be
>suspect?????
True, that might be the case for that tournament you win, but there's so
many others around the country to do it too. Plus it's really easy to get a USCF
membership, you could keep changing names. Or why do it by yourself, there could
be partners in on it, today I win, tomorrow you win, split the prize money.
Why does everybody think it would only be one person doing it, if you watch
how they cheat casinos it's usually 3 to 6 man teams. Lookers, blockers,
watchers.
Now if casino cheaters are so good that they can get away with it even with
the eye's in the sky watching, how hard can it be for these people to cheat a
chess tournament. Security basically sucks, tournament directors are usually to
busy to keep an eye on the lower ranks, plus scam artists are so good they can
easily take the average joe, trust me I live in New York, I've seen them do it.
I've watched countless people lose money to three card monte, because they don't
understand that the guy who's winning is part of the act.
There's a gadget out there that you where on your leg that taps you like
morse code, it was used in poker cheating, a looker would stand far back and
watch everbody elses card from a distance and then send a message to the leg
tapper letting his partner know what everbody else had so he could bet properly.
Something like that could be used in chess, 3 man team, 1) the player, 2) the
looker signaling you and signaling 3) the PC operator somewhere in the hotel.
International notation would be the taps, 4 taps then 2 taps then 4 taps then 4
taps would translate to 1. d4.
-Dave
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