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Subject: Re: Why don't Hiarcs7,32 solve this position with Namilov 5 man bases?

Author: Sune Larsson

Date: 23:47:23 01/08/02

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On January 09, 2002 at 02:18:40, Bobby Ang wrote:

>SWINDLE MODE
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>Messrs. Jimmy Walker and Harald Faber have perhaps forgotten about "swindle
>mode".  I believe this was first introduced by Bob Hyatt in Crafty.
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>Hiarcs7.32 knows that it is a draw, but White is a pawn up and what's wrong with
>trying to win this?  So it makes the  best move under the circumstances hoping
>that Black will blunder.
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>Take note that after white moves here, Hiarcs7.32 will immediately show an
>evaluation of draw for Black.  But after black moves white will again show an
>evaluation of +1 and try to win.
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>In short, Mr. Ripple, hiarcs7.32 has accessed the 5-man Tablebases, notes that
>it is a draw, but still tries to win it.
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>I may be mistaken, but I think I read about this from Steve Lopez, either one of
>his T-Notes or a posting here.
>
>bobby ang



 Touché! ;-)

 Sune
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>On January 09, 2002 at 01:00:47, Terry Ripple wrote:
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>>Chess Tiger solves this instantly showing a draw with White to move. Interesting
>>that my Hiarcs 7.32 can't solve it and they both are using the 5 man
>>Namilov bases. Hiarcs shows a score of 1.16 after thinking 10 min. but Tiger
>>will move instantly and shows a draw 0.00
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>>I checked to make sure Hiarcs has endgame databases checked and the ini.file
>>shows the correct path. Please note that Hiarcs does solve most of the 5 man
>>problems but there are a few problems like this one when there is a draw
>>involved, then Hiarcs will just keep thinking on the position when it is a dead
>>draw and it don't show 0.00 after thinking over 10 min.
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>>Why does my Hiarcs act this way? Do any of you have similiar problems with your
>>Hiarcs?
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>>Sorry i didn't post a diagram as this is my first time and didnt bother to find
>>out how it's done as i was pressed for time at the moment. Maybe someone would
>>be kind and describe how to post a chess diagram, i would appreciate it very
>>much! I posted the Fen and the ASCII.
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>>Thankyou in advance for any help to my problem with Hiarcs 7.32!
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>>PS. For those who can't read the Fen, it's White to move and draw.
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>>Best regards,
>>Terry
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>>2k5/8/8/2p5/2P5/3P4/2K5/8 w - - 0 1
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>>wKc2,Pc4,d3/bKc8,Pc5



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