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Subject: Re: Post your longest mate in a 5 man position. I found a mate in 98

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 12:20:03 01/09/02

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On January 09, 2002 at 14:31:07, Uri Blass wrote:

>On January 09, 2002 at 12:49:18, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On January 09, 2002 at 05:03:19, Terry Ripple wrote:
>>
>>>This is a mate in 98 using all 5 man Namilov bases! I used Hiarcs 7.32 but Tiger
>>>14.0 says mate in 97 because i believe it announces the number to mate after it
>>>made it's first move of the solution!
>>>
>>>N6k/7p/8/8/8/8/8/K6N w - - 0 1
>>>
>>>For those who can't read the FEN here is the ASCII position. (White to move)
>>>wKa1,Na8,Nh1/bKh8,Ph7
>>>
>>>PS. I'am interested to know what the longest distance to mate is in a 5 man
>>>position just for curious reasons.
>>>
>>>Best regards,
>>>Terry
>>
>>
>>I don't remember the positions, but Crafty once announced a mate in 103 on
>>ICC in a KNN vs KP ending, and Ferret beat that with a mate in 104 announcement
>>in the same kind of ending...
>
>I doubt if they can win against correct defence.
>The position may be drawn by the 50 move rule and a draw like this already
>happened in comp-comp games.
>
>Crafty should never announce mate in 103 based on existing tablebases and a
>score of mate in 103 should be translated to some material advantage based on
>the estimated probability to win.
>
>Uri

Why?  Just because some arbitrary rule says the game is a draw?  Even if that
rule has been eliminated and then reinstated a few years later?  mate in 104
might be right again one day as fickle as FIDE is.  :)




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