Author: Gian-Carlo Pascutto
Date: 00:00:50 01/10/02
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On January 09, 2002 at 15:05:54, Rajen Gupta wrote: >On January 09, 2002 at 05:49:35, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: > >>On January 08, 2002 at 17:30:37, Tom Kerrigan wrote: >> >>>On January 07, 2002 at 16:00:58, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >>> >>>>On January 07, 2002 at 12:53:17, Rajen Gupta wrote: >>>> >>>>>i'm afraid that amd may lose all the goodwill they have earned so far unless >>>>>they get their act together real soon >>>> >>>>Funny, I've been (and still am) thinking the same of Intel >>>>for quite a while. >>>> >>>>The P4 is garbage from a technical point of view, and >>>>their current Itaniums seem to be too, based on the benchmarks >>>>we have seen so far. Their only hope is to keep pushing up >>>>the clockspeed as high as they can, but the design has limits >>>>*somewhere*, as the original P3 at 1.13Ghz showed (totall recall >>>>due to instabily). >>>> >>>>When are they going to come with a _new_ CPU with a design >>>>that is _better_ than that of the Pentium Pro? >>> >>>Uhh, you seem a little confused. You apparently understand that the P3 (PPro) is >>>limited to ~1GHz at 0.18 um, and then imply that the P4 is not better? The P4 >>>runs at 2GHz with the same process and I have yet to see a benchmark where the >>>2GHz P4 doesn't outperform the 1GHz P3. >> >>I'm talking from a technical point of view, about the _design_. >> >>Yes, the thing runs at faster clockspeeds, but the design is all >>but impressive. Put a 1Ghz P4 vs a 1Ghz P3 and you will see what >>I mean. It's like taking a step back. >> >>It's faster only because of the clockspeed. Granted, that is made >>possible by the silly design, but it doesn't make it any nicer, >>especially compared vs the Athlons. >> >>-- >>GCP > >but the simple fact >remains that the pentium 3 architecture has reached its limitations in terms of >clock speed and cannot actually be cranked up to that speed. I already stated this above, remember? >the p4 is an >entirely new design which can be clocked to insane speeds. the instructions per >cycle may be less than the athlon or even p3 but the bottom line is >performance. True, but that is not what I was talking about. -- GCP
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