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Subject: Re: CCT4 and whisper

Author: Andrew Williams

Date: 14:03:57 01/13/02

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On January 13, 2002 at 16:11:41, Frank Phillips wrote:

>On January 13, 2002 at 15:54:57, Andrew Williams wrote:
>
>>On January 13, 2002 at 15:01:22, Frank Phillips wrote:
>>
>>>I have three whisper modes in Searcher:
>>>  basic search info;
>>>  basic search info plus final pv; and
>>>  as above plus pv during search.
>>>
>>>Which is the required mode for CCT4?
>>>
>>>Having just tried this on ICC, I noticed that I cannot see the see the displayed
>>>information - unlike on chess.net as far as I recall.  I am using xboard
>>>tellothers command.  Is there some variable I can set in my vars on ICC (kib=1
>>>currently), or should I use tellall.
>>>
>>>Frank
>>
>>Not sure I understand your question, but this is what I do:
>>
>>sprintf(evalString, "tellics kibitz PM: depth=%d score=%s %blah %blah",
>> lastCompletedDepth, scoreStr, blah1, blah2)
>>
>>You could use "tellics whisper ... " instead, of course.
>>
>>Andrew
>
>I do   "tellothers %s\n",message,  which according to the xboard protocol sends
>the message to everyone watching other than the engine's opponent.  Equivalent
>to "whisper message\n".
>
>I also send tellics message, but only for commands.  Who sees tellics messages?
>

If you do "tellics", everything following that word is sent verbatim to ICS,
as if you had typed it at the keyboard.

>On fics, I see my own whispers (tellother) in the xboard console, but do not see
>them when on icc.
>

Right. I don't see my whispers either on ICC. Can't remember what I
see on FICS. Why not kibitz for the duration of the tourney?

>The second question was about what is the required mode of whispering/kibitzing
>for CCT4.  I recall seeing a lot of discussion some weeks ago about mitigating
>cheating, including talk about displaying search information during the games.
>
>Frank

AFAIK, there wasn't a resolution to this, just a discussion. My preference
would be to see the PV as well as the other information. This is what PM will
be kibitzing.

Cheers

Andrew



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