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Subject: Re: Crafty Mailing List

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 08:21:54 06/16/98

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On June 16, 1998 at 10:44:41, Dave Gomboc wrote:

>On June 16, 1998 at 04:14:16, Dezhi Zhao wrote:
>>I am happy that you share the same experience and results with me.
>>Here is the "vapor-ware" story:  When I compared NegaScout to PVS, I found
>>the savings are virtually negligible (only hundreds of nodes per 3 millions).
>>I post the results to Crafty mailing list ( and got responses
>>from Dr. Hyatt  and Vincent Diepveen. They had simliar test results. Vincent
>>mentained that PVS is the best. And Dr. Hyatt thought that the negligible
>>savings is not worth the additional structral complexity NegaScout imposes
>>to the search, and that it seems to be a "vapor ware".  I think it is a
>>expression, even for a Chinese like me.
>Is there a lot of traffic on the mailing list?  Is
>subscription information available anywhere?  Is there an advantage for its
>users other than having things by email instead of the web interface?
>Dave Gomboc

to subscribe, "finger jpcrafty" on ICC... to get instructions on what to

it serves several purposes.  People report bugs/problems there and they get
to me immediately.  As do requests for information or whatever...

it is related only to Crafty, so there's no unrelated stuff, if Crafty is all
you are interested in.  The newsgroup and CCC are much more "general" in nature
with mostly non-crafty topics...

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