Author: Odd Gunnar Malin
Date: 05:47:42 01/15/02
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On January 15, 2002 at 06:55:53, Stephen A. Boak wrote: >On January 15, 2002 at 03:04:48, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote: > >>On January 14, 2002 at 23:39:50, Stephen A. Boak wrote: >> >>>1. Will the instructions, by Odd Gunnar Malin, work to run The King engine (from >>>CM8000, with most recent patch) under the Fritz6 GUI? >> >>If you have the CB Winboard adapter from nov.00, I see CB has taken down the >>site. >> >>>2. Once this process is working, will The King engine be usable for Analyze Game >>>under Fritz6 GUI? I.e. for overnight game analysis at several minutes per move? >> >>I don't see any problem with this. If you you are thinking of the change of >>protection code so is this only if you restart the engine. >> >>It will on the contrary give you some new view on your positions, much like >>Gambit Tiger but with other proposed moves. >>This is a very nice Engine to use if you are looking for new moves to blow your >>opponent of the board the next time you meets. >> >>I must admit that I have never analyzed with the Fritz GUI so I want to name one >>limit when using The King to analyze games. This is that it clear it's hashtable >>between moves so if Fritz travers back and forth when it try to find the best >>move it would not give the expected gain from the hashtables. >> >>>3. If so, are the analysis times settable under the Fritz GUI? >> >>If it works for other Winboard engines there is nothing specially with The King. >> >>>4. Any feedback on the benefits of the Odd Gunnar Malin approach--what it will >>>allow, and what it won't allow, will be much appreciated. >> >>I'm not a Fritz user so other can answer this better. >> >>Odd Gunnar >> >>>Thanks, >>>--Steve > >Thanks, Odd, for the information. > >I have CM8000 and can already analyze an entire game overnight using CM8000. >What benefit is there for using the same engine under the Fritz6 GUI? > >Perhaps I can switch engines while in the same Fritz6 GUI, to analyze a position >with one engine (Fritz6), then the other engine (The King). > I'm using neither of them for analysis. I use Chessmaster for playing games with it. I use to start with one in the 1500 range and play two game, one white and one black, if I win the match I proceed to the next personality. Most often this is 15 min. games. For Fritz I only have the demo version, and my use is to unpack E-book I buy. This usually comes in ChessBase archive format (.cbv). When this is unpacked to .cbh++ files I enter ChessAssistant to read the books (games) there. I normaly don't analyze my own game with any engine in one run. I first analyze it with only my pure brain and make more attention to write what I thought under the game and what came up under the analysis together with my opponent after the game. As a last thing I go through the game/analysis with an engine acting like GM sitting behind my back an giving comment. I'm more often use engines to analyze openings to find out why this and that is played. Like this position where both Adams and Karpov playes Bxg5 and give a way the bishop pair instead of weaken the kingside with g6 (this bothered me last night when I tried to prepare for the CCT4). [D]r3rnk1/ppqb1ppp/4pb2/6N1/2P5/3Q4/PPB2PPP/R1BR2K1 b - - 0 1 I also use engines to find good answer when my opponent get out of book so. The program (GUI) I use is Chess Assistant and this has a better method to add and view your own and engines comment If you want to take a look at it later (better than CM I don't know about Fritz). There is also a analyse function in this program to let an engine go back and forth when analyzing a position so that you don't get a PV-line with some doubtful moves at the end. But instead every move in the line is analyzed to the desired depth. I sometimes set it on a position to analyze with this function when I manage to tear myself away from PC at night for to go to bed. It is on this analysis function that I missing that TheKing clear it's hash between moves. Hopefully the next version don't do this (are you listening Merlino :) ). When I do analysis hole games this is mainly with a blundercheck function for searching for tacticks/combinations etc. The game is mostly from local tournaments with different players. This is for adding diagrams to either a bulletin or for a web-page that covers the tournament. >NOTE--I do not play engine vs. engine tournaments or games--I only analyze my >human OTB games from my club & tournament play. > I do this for testing my own engine mainly but I use Winboard as GUI for this. >I like The King engine in CM8000 very much. It provides distinct moves and >strong analysis. It finds nice combinations. > >Thanks in advance for the good help! I let the helping pass over to one that use Fritz. Odd Gunnar > >--Steve Boak
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