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Subject: Re: Why does Fritz 7 lose tournaments to Fritz 6e and Deep Fritz?

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 06:53:03 01/15/02

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On January 14, 2002 at 22:36:47, Brian Katz wrote:

>On January 14, 2002 at 02:39:16, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On January 13, 2002 at 19:16:41, eric guttenberg wrote:
>>
>>>I may be wrong, but I believe the 7,0,0,2 engine IS the 7a engine.
>>>
>>>But I am glad someone mentioned the potential for misleading results
>>>that may come from single computer matches. This has been discussed
>>>on this site at length several times and I know some people still
>>>believe in those engine matches on one machine. But I have seen too
>>>many single computer results that are at odds with 2-computer results
>>>to put too much faith in them.
>>>
>>>
>>>eric
>>
>>Your statement may be true for engine matches with ponder=on on a single
>>computer but for sure not if params are set to ponder=off. Other people argue
>>that when using two computers, the autoplayer would give the ChessBase programs
>>an advantage. My experience show - provided a sufficient number of games are
>>played - no differences in results between autoplayer matches and engine matches
>>on one machine with ponder=off. I do therefore no longer use the autoplayer to
>>get more games.
>>Kurt
>
>I may be talking out of my hat, but I believe that some programs need Permanent
>Brain more so than other engines. To me, the most accurate way to compare
>engines would be to use two separate computers with autoplayer.
>Please correct me if I am wrong.
>Brian

You are of course not wrong. Using two computers with autoplayer and ponder=on
is surely one of the best way to get reliable results. But there is so far no
evidence that the other method leads to significant differences between two
computer programs.
Kurt



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