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Subject: Re: Root Move Ordering

Author: Ulrich Tuerke

Date: 08:02:49 01/15/02

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On January 15, 2002 at 08:51:26, David Rasmussen wrote:

>On January 15, 2002 at 08:45:21, Severi Salminen wrote:
>
>>>Many people use node count (or time) to order root nodes, apart from always
>>>ordering the pv move of last ply first, of course. This seem to work ok. But as
>>>some people have suggested (Christophe, for one), this method isn't very much to
>>>the point and might have unwanted sideeffects.
>>
>>How is it "not to the point" and what side effects he means? For me it works.
>>
>>Severi
>
>It works for me too.
>
>The phrases "not to the point" and "side effects" are mine, not Christophe's.
>But he has expressed similar things.
>
>When I said "not to the point", I meant that 'nodes used' is not a very direct
>measure of the quality of a move, it's rather an indirect one. If I somehow
>could get the score of each root move after an iteration, I would certainly use
>that for ordering, but I can't since I use PVS.
>
>I can't name any tangible side effects, I said it "might" have side effects.
>
>/David

One of these is for instance, that you will always have heavily extended moves
early in your list. They aren't necessarily good  and possibly you waste a lot
of time until you come to - perhaps better and less expensive - less extended
moves.

Uli




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