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Subject: Re: Djenghis in cct4

Author: Miguel A. Ballicora

Date: 09:29:43 01/15/02

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On January 15, 2002 at 12:08:44, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On January 15, 2002 at 12:02:38, Miguel A. Ballicora wrote:
>
>>On January 15, 2002 at 08:35:00, jefkaan wrote:
>>
>>>On January 15, 2002 at 00:24:06, pavel wrote:
>>>>Yup, it's better to deal with it than talk about it, and coz misunderstandings.
>>>>If it's not a clone than the author shouldn't have a problem to cooperate.
>>>
>>>ok, i've sent a copy of the recent sourcefile (only one file..)
>>>to the tournament organizer (Volker); nullmove recently added
>>
>>You should not have sent anything at all, unless everyone of the participants
>>send a copy too. What is this? a selective witch hunt against newcomers?
>>This is ridiculous and you should not have fallen for this. Is Vincent
>>going to send a copy too?
>>There was a similar problem last time against a program that did too well.
>>An amateur program and was accused of many things making the programmer
>>very uncomfortable, putting him in a position to prove his innocence.
>>Why? even pretigious people here get paranoid.
>>
>>My quesion is: Is everybody now going to send a copy of the version
>>used in this tournament or you were finger pointed by a spurious accusation?
>>
>>Miguel
>>
>
>
>For the record, this has _always_ been a stipulation of ICCA-sponsored
>computer chess events.  The TD/organizing committee could demand to see
>the source of a program to determine if cheating has occurred.  This has
>happened in the past and a couple of cases were caught by ICCA people.

For the record, 1) I have not seen a TD/organizing committee demanding anything,
it was a participant IN PUBLIC and that is sad.
And 2) this is not sponsored by ICCA, but the first point makes it moot.

Regards,
Miguel

>
>And then again, I have caught at least four direct copies of Crafty being
>used in such events, while claiming to be "new programs written from
>scratch."
>
>The worrisome thing is that I am _positive_ that I haven't caught them
>_all_...  :(
>
>>
>>>(thx Bas, for the pseudocode) but now it runs wild sometimes
>>>tactically, although i included checking if side to move is in
>>>check, and playing nullmove only every odd or even ply..
>>>To avoid further confusion i consider to open a temporarily
>>>account (one month) on Icc with handle 'djenghis',
>>>best regards
>>>Jan
>>>PS yet still i wonder Vincent's agressive behaviour to apparent
>>>newcomers in the field of computer chess (smelling competition ?);
>>>the intention of Djenghis, made just for fun, is to play gambits
>>>on Fics (see handle 'djenghis' there..), its not intended
>>>to compete with excellent engines like Yace and soforth..



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