Author: Bruce Moreland
Date: 12:15:55 01/15/02
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On January 15, 2002 at 03:57:15, Ed Schröder wrote: >On January 14, 2002 at 19:17:02, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>Hello , >> >>i see bookbuilder in cct4. that is an interface made by >>Bas Hamstra sold to J.E.F. Kaan (who can't program at all) >>and with crafty added sold as 'bookbuilder'. >> >>Now i see Jan Kaan join CCT4 with bookbuilder under the name 'djenghis 0.05'. >> >>He is mentioned as 'author' from Djenghis. >> >>This is not correct. > > >Vincent, > >You impossibly can provide the evidence of your accusation, I suggest you move >your suspect to the Tournament Director of CCT4, that is where it belongs. > >The moderators of CCC are not going to allow you to discredit the name of Mr. >Kaan based on wild speculations. So it's either provide the evidence or stop >now. > >Kindest regards, > >Ed Schroder >CCC moderator With respect, I disagree with this. The factual accuracy of what someone is saying shouldn't be an issue. The moderators should not be a court of law that determined whether what someone says is true or false. "Put up or shut up" should be something the members say, not something the moderators say. The club that the moderators wield is too heavy in this case. As a group, we need to be able to speak freely about issues that are important to us. Sometimes, this might involve very contentious speech, which Vincent seems to specialize in. I think that the charter is designed to protect us from stalkers and people who can't stay within the bounds of civility. It's not designed to prevent us from getting into arguments, disagreeing, or even accusing each other of things. I suggest that if Vincent makes a campaign out of this, it should go. If someone is going to post the same thing every few days, they are obviously using the forum as a vehicle for personal attack -- that's what a campaign is. I don't see that happening here. If someone wants to say something nasty, I think they should go for it. I think that the charter protects us from people would would follow us around sniping at us, like the stuff that is happening in the other forum, but if someone is displeased with someone, that's a valid topic. bruce
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