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Subject: Re: CCT4

Author: pavel

Date: 13:40:28 01/15/02

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On January 15, 2002 at 16:33:18, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:

>On January 15, 2002 at 15:34:19, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>
>>On January 15, 2002 at 15:19:38, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>
>>>On January 15, 2002 at 15:11:26, Volker Richey wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>Michael Borgstaedt told me:
>>>>
>>>>Goliath Light 1.5 was based on a 3rd generation engine.
>>>>(engine v3.x, you will find it in Little Goliath 2000 v3.0 and 3.5
>>>>also in the ChessBase-Natives Goliath Light 1.0 und 1.5).
>>>>
>>>>The next generation was the engine v4.0. The commercial engine
>>>>was included in the software "Goliath Blitz".
>>>>
>>>>Goliath Blitz is stronger as Goliath Light 1.5.
>>>>
>>>>-----------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>The Goliath Light had no permission to start.
>>>>
>>>>-----------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>Goliath Blitz will play the CCT4.
>>>>
>>>>volker
>>>
>>>I don't agree that engines that have "little" in common should be considered
>>>unique entries if they are written by the same people or members of the same
>>>team.
>>>
>>>For example, Fritz is rewritten by Frans Morsch each time he makes a new
>>>version.  One may assume that if he is rewriting it, he's changing approximately
>>>everything.  It would not be appropriate to allow each of these to play as a
>>>unique entry.
>>>
>>>One programmer, one entrant.  And if there are two or more people on the team,
>>>that counts as one programmer.
>>>
>>>My humble opinion.
>>
>>That was never the intention as far as I can tell. Especially since it's
>>specifically stated by the author that only one engine was given the permission
>>to participate. The one programmer, one entrant clause was specified from the
>>beginning, so nothing new there.
>>
>>However, the participation by authorization of the programmer was a potential
>>source of error, ie. claims by an operator that he/she had received permission
>>to operate engine X. If all claims aren't checked and the engine author isn't
>>checking the list of participants an unauthorized engine might sneak in. Both
>>possibilities are probable if the organizers are sufficiently busy.
>>
>>The chances of Michael Borgstädt trying to participate with two engines or
>>giving two permissions are zero IMHO.
>
>zero, I don't think so ?
>Remember wmccc 1996 in Jakarta, 2 goliaths had been entered (in fact the entry
>names had been different). Next year in Paris, 2 versions of Goliath had been
>announced too; but 1 entry had been withdrawn after some protests in internet
>fora. Ask Thorsten Czub; IIRC he was one of the guys opposing vehemently.
>
>Uli
>
>
>>
>>Regards,
>>Mogens


Isn't that the organizer's duty to make sure that this doesn't happen?
if the organizer allows such things, i don't see why you or even Bob won't want
to have several versions of your engine?

It's not like he said, "hey, I have 2 differant programs here."
it's rather, "I have 2 differant versions here." And if the organizer does'nt
have a problem with that, there is little one can do, since they are the one who
makes up the rules.


regards,
pavs.



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