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Subject: Re: Used time control

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 02:32:48 01/16/02

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On January 16, 2002 at 00:55:22, Harald Faber wrote:

>On January 15, 2002 at 17:33:07, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>On January 15, 2002 at 13:36:33, Harald Faber wrote:
>>
>>>On January 15, 2002 at 10:44:45, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 15, 2002 at 01:26:54, Harald Faber wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 14, 2002 at 20:02:32, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On January 14, 2002 at 13:04:18, Harald Faber wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hello Harald,
>>>>>>What time control are you playing?
>>>>>>I don't know what Gandalf 5 will do at 40/2hours but I'm
>>>>>>waiting for SSDF to test it.
>>>>>>Jim
>>>>>
>>>>>You could have found out yourself. ;-)
>>>>>You can make a tattoo on your skin:
>>>>>
>>>>>"Harald Faber is only testing 40/120+60"
>>>>>:)
>>>>>Add.: On two PCs of course with ponder=on!
>>>>
>>>>I'm sorry to hear that.  I was hopeing for better results at the longer time
>>>>controls.  I almost never test at longer than G/2hours anymore.  That's done
>>>>well enough by SSDF.  By the way, what does the above 40/120/60" mean?  I read
>>>>it as 40 moves in 120 minutes /60 seconds??
>>>
>>>:-)))
>>>No, these " are only the closing quotation marks that began with "Harald...
>>>
>>>40/120+60 means 40 moves in 120 minutes plus 60 minutes for the rest of the
>>>game. So the games cannot last longer than 6 hours which is absolutely enough.
>>
>>I agree with that !!  I now use G/2hours as the max time control and I believe
>>it's enough. :-)
>>Jim
>
>If I were sure that the results stay the same, I'd do that too. :-)
>But a problem is that some programs suffer from blitz time control. E.g.
>Shredder plays worse with g/180 than with 40/120+60 although the total playing
>time is the same. The time management within the first 40 moves seems to be
>significant different.

programs should play better at g/180 because at g/180 they can choose if to use
more than 2 hours for the first 40 moves and for 40/120+60 they have not the
choice.

Does shredder use less time for the first 40 moves
when you tell it g/180?

Is there a program that always use the rule of using more time at slower time
control?

I suggest to test programs in the following situations with no opening book
1)200 moves/200 minutes+1 minutes per game
2)g/180
3)10 moves/120 minutes+1 minutes/game

T(1) is the time that is used for the first move in case 1
T(2) is the time that is used for the first move in case 2
T(3) is the time that is used for the first move in case 3

How many programs have T(1)>T(2)>T(3)?

Uri



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